Go back and reread what I posted. I never said faith and works don't mix..I said grace and works don't mix.
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Go back and reread what I posted. I never said faith and works don't mix..I said grace and works don't mix.
If you're going to keep the Law, best be getting a straight razor and leather strop ready.
OK my fault, but my point still stands. Seeking to do the will of the Most High does not cancel out His grace/mercy.
Thank you my Brother.
Well, you have yourself quite the conundrum here...
The Lord looks down from heaven on all mankind to see if there are any who understand, any who seek God. All have turned away, all have become corrupt; there is no one who does good, not even one.[Psalm 14:2,3]
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As it is written: “There is no one righteous, not even one; there is no one who understands; there is no one who seeks God. All have turned away, they have together become worthless; there is no one who does good, not even one."[Romans 3:10-12]
Before the coming of this faith, we were held in custody under the law, locked up until the faith that was to come would be revealed. So the law was our guardian until Christ came that we might be justified by faith. Now that this faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian.[Galatians 3:23-25]
The Law has been fulfilled by the Christ, and we are no longer under the Law, but Grace. The Law could not give life, as Paul said For if a law had been given that could impart life, then righteousness would certainly have come by the law.[Galatians 3:21b]
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No im ok, I believe yes, all fall short of the glory of Yah and thus need mercy from Yah, yet this does not mean that I so oh well im bad and continue to do bad, but once accepting Messiah turn to Him and walking in right ways and works.
Ecclesiastes 7:20, “For there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and does not sin.”
1 John 3:7, "Little children, let no man deceive you; he who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous."
1 John 5:17, "All unrighteousness is sin, and there is a sin not unto death."
1 John 3:4, "Whoever commits sin, transgresses also the Law; for sin is the transgression of the Law."
Romans 5:13, "For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law."
Romans 4:15, "Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression."
Romans 3:31, "Are we then doing away with the Law* through the faith? By no means! Rather, we establish the Law!"
Romans, “6:1-2, "What shall we say then? Are we to continue in sin that grace may abound? By no means! How can we who died to sin still live in it?"
1 John 3:4, "Whoever commits sin, transgresses also the Law; for sin is the transgression of the Law."
Whole council of Yah
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Acts 24:14, "But I confess this to you, that after the way which they call heresy--so I worship the Father of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the Law and in the Prophets."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 7:25, "Thanks be to YHWH, I have deliverance through Yahshua Messiah our King! So then, with this same mind, I myself serve the Law of YHWH, while in the flesh that is yet subject to the law of sin."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Acts 21:24, "Take them, and be purified with them, and pay their expenses so that they may shave their heads. Then everyone will know that those things they were informed about you (forsaking the Law), were lies, and that you, yourself, walk orderly, and keep the Law."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 7:12, "Therefore the Law is holy, and the commandments are holy, and just, and righteous."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Ephesians 6:2-3, "Honor your father and mother; which is the first commandment with a promise: That it may be well with you, and you may live long on the earth."[/FONT]
Ahh yes the Schoolmaster.
The Law is our textbook and Yahshua teaches us the proper way to view and walk in the Law;
Mat 5:18-19, "For truly I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh – the smallest of the letters – will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected. Whosoever, therefore, will break one of the least of these Laws, and will teach men so, he will be called the least in the Kingdom of YHWH; but whosoever will do and teach them, the same will be called great in the Kingdom of YHWH."
Mat 22:36-40, "Teacher, what is the greatest commandment in the Law? Yahshua said to him: You must love YHWH your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might (Deuteronomy 6:5). This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself (Leviticus 19:18). On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets."
Revelation 12:17, “And the dragon was enraged with the woman, and he went to fight with the remnant of her seed, those guarding the commands of Yah and possessing the witness of יהושע Messiah."
Revelation 14:12, “Here is the endurance of the set-apart ones, here are those guarding the commands of Yah and the belief of יהושע.”
Mat 7:12-14, "Therefore, all things you want men to do to you, do the same to them, for this is the (intent of the) Law and the Prophets. Enter in through the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and many are those who go that way. Because straight is the gate, and narrow is the way which leads to life, and few there are who find it."
The Matthew passages, they were still under the Law. So, Jesus was telling them what to do whilst still under the Law. But I have no idea what you're suggesting by posting those verses from Revelation.
But we are no longer under the schoolmaster/guardian, but in Christ. The best the Law could do was bring us TO the Christ, but not INTO the Christ. Grace is what places us IN the Christ. HUGE difference betwixt UNTO & INTO.
If you are going to keep the Law, best be getting that straight razor and leather strop ready.
Yahshua's words are valid forever;
Mat 24:35, “Heaven and earth may pass away, but My teachings will not pass away.”
It is false doctrine to abolish His words post Scarifice;
John/Yahanan 14:26, "But the Comforter – the Holy Spirit which YHWH will send in My Name will teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatever I (Yahshua/Jesus) have said to you."
John/Yahanan 6:63, "It is the Spirit that gives life; the flesh is useless. The words (Instructions) that I (Yahshua/Jesus) speak to you, they are Spirit, and they are life everlasting."
John/Yahanan 12:48, "He who rejects Me, and does not follow My words has One Who judges him. The word that I have spoken, the same will be used to judge him in the last day."
and im not really implying anything other than what is written, those of Yah have faith in Yahshua and keep the Laws/Commands/Instructions/Torah of Yah.
Revelation 14:12, “Here is the endurance of the set-apart ones, here are those guarding the commands of Yah and the belief of יהושע.”
Luke 16:16-17, "The Law and the Prophets were until Yahchanan(John), since that time the Kingdom of YHWH is preached, and every man is pressed to enter it. But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one yodh of the Law to fail."
John/Yahanan 14:15, "If you love Me, keep My commandments."
1 John 5:2-3, "By this we know that we love the children of Yah, when we love Yah and guard His commands. For this is the love for Yah, that we guard His commands, and His commands are not heavy."
Mat 22:37-40, "Yahshua said to him: You must love YHWH your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might. (Deut 6:5) This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. (Lev 19:18) On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets."
You're still saying we are under the Law, but the Christ fulfilled it for us. If you are going to remain under the Law, you better have a bunch of sheep, oxen, doves, &c/ Plus It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery. Mark my words! I, Paul, tell you that if you let yourselves be circumcised, Christ will be of no value to you at all. Again I declare to every man who lets himself be circumcised that he is obligated to obey the whole law. You who are trying to be justified by the law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace. For through the Spirit we eagerly await by faith the righteousness for which we hope. For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any value. The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love.[Galatians 5:1-6] If you keep the Law, you have to keep all of it. God doesn't like lukewarm ppl, who do things halfway. Also, under the Law, there was a once a year sacrifice where the High Priest adorned himself in certain apparel and consecrated himself with blood on his right thumb, earlobe and great toe, and went into the innermost portion of the sanctuary where the mercy seat, the Ark of the Covenant, the two tablets, Aaron's rod, were placed, and made a sacrifice. Seeing that the Christ is our High Priest now, after the order of Melchizadek, and the Ark of the Covenant is no longer here, who will make your sacrifices for you?
If we are still under the Law, these are still necessary.
Also, in Hebrews 7, which Levitical priest will come and collect a one-tenth tithe from you?
Do not steal and do not kill were abolished? So everything that satan is doing is ok then right? because there is no law?....
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]1 John 3:4, "Whoever commits sin, transgresses also the Law; for sin is the transgression of the Law."
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[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 5:13, "For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law."[/FONT]
Paul said he kept the Law post sacrifice;
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Acts 24:14, "But I confess this to you, that after the way which they call heresy--so I worship the Father of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the Law and in the Prophets."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Romans 7:25, "Thanks be to YHWH, I have deliverance through Yahshua Messiah our King! So then, with this same mind, I myself serve the Law of YHWH, while in the flesh that is yet subject to the law of sin."[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Acts 21:24, "Take them, and be purified with them, and pay their expenses so that they may shave their heads. Then everyone will know that those things they were informed about you (forsaking the Law), were lies, and that you, yourself, walk orderly, and keep the Law."[/FONT]
Is he fallen from grace?
So is Christ of no value to Timothy because Paul had him circumcised:
Acts 16:1-3, “1 Paul came also to Derbe and to Lystra. And a disciple was there, named Timothy, the son of a Jewish woman who was a believer, but his father was a Greek, 2 and he was well spoken of by the brethren who were in Lystra and Iconium. 3 Paul wanted this man to go with him; and he took him and circumcised him because of the Jews who were in those parts, for they all knew that his father was a Greek.”
Deuteronomy 10:16, “And you shall circumcise the foreskin of your heart, and harden your neck no more.”
Galatians 5:5-6, “For we, in Spirit, by belief, eagerly wait for the expectation of righteousness. For in Messiah יהושע neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any strength, but belief working through love."
1 Corinthians 7:19, The circumcision is naught, and the uncircumcision is naught, but the guarding of the commands of Yah does matter!”
Ecclesiastes 12:13-14, “Let us hear the conclusion of the entire matter: Fear Yah and guard His commands, for this applies to all mankind! For Yah shall bring every work into right-ruling, including all that is hidden, whether good or whether evil.”
Rom 2:26-29, “For circumcision indeed profits if you practice the Torah, but if you are a transgressor of the Torah, your circumcision has become uncircumcision. So, if an uncircumcised one watches over the righteousnesses of the Torah, shall not his uncircumcision be reckoned as circumcision? And the uncircumcised by nature, who perfects the Torah, shall judge you who notwithstanding letter and circumcision are a transgressor of the Torah! For he is not a Yehuḏi who is so outwardly, neither is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh. But a Yehuḏi is he who is so inwardly, and circumcision is that of the heart,g in Spirit, not literally, whose praise is not from men but from Yah.”
Romans 2:12, “For as many as have sinned without the Law, will also perish without the Law, and as many as have sinned in the Law, will be judged by the Law.”
2 Corinthians 5:10, “For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Messiah, that each one may receive his reward according to what he has done in the body, whether righteous or evil.”
The priestly Law still stand, they are now carried out by the High Priest after the order of the Messenger of Righteousness, Yahshua
Hebrews 7:11-12, "Now if perfection had been attainable through the Levitical priesthood (for under it the people received the law), what further need would there have been for another priest to arise after the order of Melchizedek, rather than one named after the order of Aaron? For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law."
Hebrews 9:11-12, "But the Messiah came near as a High Priest over the righteous things to come, with the great and more perfect tabernacle not made with hands, that is, not of this creation; Nor through the blood of goats and calves, but through His own blood He entered the Most Holy Place once, for all, having obtained eternal redemption."
You better tell Jesus He was wrong in Mat 5, because he said;
Matt 5:18, "For truly I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh--the smallest of the letters--will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."
Revelation 21:1-2, "And I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away,
If perfection could have been attained through the Levitical priesthood—and indeed the law given to the people established that priesthood—why was there still need for another priest to come, one in the order of Melchizedek, not in the order of Aaron? For when the priesthood is changed, the law must be changed also.[Hebrews 7:11,12]
Jesus is our High Priest now. He came from an higher order of Melchizadek and not Levi. To be an Jewish high priest, they had to come from the tribe of Levi. Jesus came from the tribe of Judah, so Hid Priesthood came from an higher order. Also, when the priesthood changed, from Levitical to the Christ, the Law changed also. We are under grace now.
The law made no one perfect, but grace does. I am speaking of our spirits here.
Jesus is our High Priest now. He came from an higher order of Melchizadek and not Levi. To be an Jewish high priest, they had to come from the tribe of Levi. Jesus came from the tribe of Judah, so Hid Priesthood came from an higher order. Also, when the priesthood changed, from Levitical to the Christ, the Law changed also. We are under grace now.
The law made no one perfect, but grace does. I am speaking of our spirits here.
The ceremonial law has been done away with, as we no longer have to sacrifice animals to atone for our sins. The Christ was our once for all time sacrifice and He fulfilled the Law.
He lived the Law perfectly, and that has been imputed to us. God sees us as if we have lived the Law perfectly. But when the priesthood changed, so did the Law. The OT ppl were governed by the Law, now we are governed by grace and the Grace Covenant.
Yes Yahshua has made the final Sacrifice, I already said that...
Romans 3:31, "Are we then doing away with the Law* through the faith? By no means! Rather, we establish the Law*!"
Romans 8:5-8, "For those who live according to the flesh, set their minds on the things of the flesh; but those who live according to the Spirit, set their minds on the things of the Spirit. For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against; (bitterly opposed to), YHWH; for it his not subject to the Law of YHWH, nor indeed can be. So then, those who are of the flesh cannot please YHWH."
Mat 5:18-19, "For truly I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh – the smallest of the letters – will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected. Whosoever, therefore, will break one of the least of these Laws, and will teach men so, he will be called the least in the Kingdom of YHWH; but whosoever will do and teach them, the same will be called great in the Kingdom of YHWH."
Revelation 14:12, “Here is the endurance of the set-apart ones, here are those guarding the commands of Yah and the belief of יהושע.”
Mat 7:12-14, "Therefore, all things you want men to do to you, do the same to them, for this is the (intent of the) Law and the Prophets. Enter in through the narrow gate; for wide is the gate and broad is the way that leads to destruction, and many are those who go that way. Because straight is the gate, and narrow is the way which leads to life, and few there are who find it."
John/Yahanan 14:15, "If you love Me, keep My commandments."
Mat 5:18, "For truly I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh – the smallest of the letters – will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."
Luke 16:16-17, "The Law and the Prophets were until Yahchanan(John), since that time the Kingdom of YHWH is preached, and every man is pressed to enter it. But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one yodh of the Law to fail."
1 Yahanan /John 2:3-7, “And by this we know that we know Him, if we guard His commands. The one who says, “I know Him,” and does not guard His commands, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoever guards His Word, truly the love of Yah has been perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him. The one who says he stays in Him ought himself also to walk, even as He walked. Beloved, I write no fresh command to you, but an old command which you have had from the beginning. The old command is the Word which you heard from the beginning.”
1 John 5:2-3, "By this we know that we love the children of Yah, when we love Yah and guard His commands. For this is the love for Yah, that we guard His commands, and His commands are not heavy."
1 John 4:19-21, "We love Him, because He first loved us. If anyone says: I love YHWH, and hates his neighbor, he is a liar; for he who does not love his neighbor whom he has seen, how can he love YHWH Whom he has not seen? For we have this commandment from Him: That he who loves YHWH must love his neighbor also."
1 John 5:2-3, "By this we know that we love the children of Yah, when we love Yah and guard His commands. For this is the love for Yah, that we guard His commands, and His commands are not heavy."
1 John 4:19-21, "We love Him, because He first loved us. If anyone says: I love YHWH, and hates his neighbor, he is a liar; for he who does not love his neighbor whom he has seen, how can he love YHWH Whom he has not seen? For we have this commandment from Him: That he who loves YHWH must love his neighbor also."