Not By Works

[Magenta]

 

[blue_ladybug]

Spoken by your own words, Fran, you do NOT believe in eternal security/eternal life. And I didn't say you aren't going to heaven, I said you EXPECT to go to heaven despite NOT believing in the eternal life there..

Go ahead and have your tantrums. In the end, you're only hurting yourself.. not us..

 

[FranC]

I don't have a weird theology.. I have the truth. You don't even believe in eternal life..yet expect to go to heaven..now THAT'S weird theology...

Did you happen to catch the explanation I gave to Stunnedbygrace about Eternal Life?

Sorry if you missed it. Maybe Magenta could go look for it. She's the gofer.
It would do you good to read it.

Do you ever wonder why I'm sooooooo good at explaining things?
No.
Too bad.

Next.....

 

[FranC]

(new thread available if anyone's interested)

Is it called NOt By Works?
Is Dcon the O.P,.

I'LL BE RIGHT OVER!!

 

[UnderGrace]

No problem....it is hard to believe.

Sorry, I wuz waaay behind, lol.

 

[blue_ladybug]

You've lost all credibility with me.. I don't learn from those who shun eternal life..

Did you happen to catch the explanation I gave to Stunnedbygrace about Eternal Life?

Sorry if you missed it. Maybe Magenta could go look for it. She's the gofer.
It would do you good to read it.

Do you ever wonder why I'm sooooooo good at explaining things?
No.
Too bad.

Next.....

 

[FranC]

I'm just now seeing this, I'm that far behind.

I DON'T APPROVE WHATSOEVER OF SAYING CHRIST'S DYING FOR ANYONE WAS A WASTE!

I wouldn't say such a thing whether it was true or not!

Fran, you really ought to apologize to those involved.

Sorry.

Simple theology.

Whoever is not saved and whoever does not accept the sacrifice of Jesus has WASTED HIS SACRIFICE FOR THEM.

Since I do not see the spirit of God in some here, I can SAFELY SAY that the Death and sacrifice of Jesus was WASTED on them.

I'm very careful of what I say.

See John 3:16

WHOSOEVE BELIEVETH IN HIM.

If someone does not believe in Him, HIS DEATH WAS IN VAIN AND WASTED FOR THAT PERSON.
(not for everyone)

NO APOLOGY NECESSARY.
CHECK IT OUT WHEREVER YOU WANT TO.
THIS IS CORRECT.

 

[Stephen63]

It does not matter if it is this thread or another,

the same people have the same trouble no matter what thread it is, if this one closes, another will open, and the same people will continue to attack others.

Been going on for well over a year now

I think you're taking advantage of the situation to slam some people now

It all started in Dec 2015 with all those hypergrace threads that ran for over a year straight. they stirred up several fights in the BDF.

That's when it all began.

 

[AllenW]

Dcon isn't here because he's afraid of me.

 

[blue_ladybug]

Right now, no one here sees the Spirit of Christ in YOU, either...


Plain, simple truth..

Sorry.

Simple theology.

Whoever is not saved and whoever does not accept the sacrifice of Jesus has WASTED HIS SACRIFICE FOR THEM.

Since I do not see the spirit of God in some here, I can SAFELY SAY that the Death and sacrifice of Jesus was WASTED on them.

I'm very careful of what I say.

See John 3:16

WHOSOEVE BELIEVETH IN HIM.

If someone does not believe in Him, HIS DEATH WAS IN VAIN AND WASTED FOR THAT PERSON.
(not for everyone)

NO APOLOGY NECESSARY.
CHECK IT OUT WHEREVER YOU WANT TO.
THIS IS CORRECT.

 

[FranC]

I know not but you can see FranC is obviously very hurt.. I'm close to tears that this is taking place.. a sad sight. Nothing to gloat or gain say.

I'm in tears that this thread should even exist.
I'm in tears that Christians could act like I've seen here.
I'm in tears that some here are very PROUDFUL and in the flesh, but accuse Others of being such.

There is much to be in tears about.
When I'm hurt I thinkj of Jesus on that bloody cross and forgive them.

I have not seen this demonstrated here.
Did Jesus not die for them?
Was His blood not shed for them?
They say they're Christian... do not not care to hurt Jesus and perhaps even make His Death in vain for them???

 

[FranC]

Yet when I ignored you, you kept replying to me, right?

You said you could care less that I placed you on ignore...because you would still keep on replying to me, because I ignored you, but you do not have to ignore me....and you have to always have the last word and defend and validate yourself.

Wanna know why some of us are burned up here...because of people who are hypocrites, not in their faith, but refuse to take ownership for what they have done here....then play the self-righteous high ground victim card...you do this all the time...and guess what and let it burn into your spirit man..

People take notice of you and others like DCON being this way and then wonder how you can talk about God wonderful grace, then eat someone in defense or just to be mean spirited, then wipe your mouth and shrug and say...What? I did not do anything wrong....well I didn't, they started it first...

I placed you on ignore and made it known, yet you keep replying to me, following me around and making it known you would not respect me ignoring you...you do not have to abide by my wish........and yet her you sit like a smug pharisee wiping your mouth....going I never did anything...I am always attacked, I never cause division, slander or malice, I am to grace filled....

man up and take some accountability....

Amen and Praise the Lord
May God Almighty work a miracle in the life of some here
May His love enter into their heart and then be shown to Others.
May they truly mean what they say and act as our Lord would have them to act.
May they do good deeds and be proud of them and proud of being upright Christians.
We pray in the name of Jesus, Our Savior and our LORD.
Amen.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Then she needs to take a break from here for awhile.. Go calm down, but she won't do that. She thinks it's funny to say all these hurtful things to people.. sad but true.. Instead, she's letting satan use her..

she has been doing it since she got here, she loves playing with people's emotions,

pray for her.

 

[loveme1]

I'm in tears that this thread should even exist.
I'm in tears that Christians could act like I've seen here.
I'm in tears that some here are very PROUDFUL and in the flesh, but accuse Others of being such.

There is much to be in tears about.
When I'm hurt I thinkj of Jesus on that bloody cross and forgive them.

I have not seen this demonstrated here.
Did Jesus not die for them?
Was His blood not shed for them?
They say they're Christian... do not not care to hurt Jesus and perhaps even make His Death in vain for them???

It is sad.. He willingly suffered for our sins so that if we believe we can be Saved and many deny His Testimony..

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Thank you Stephen

It is not that I take it personally,

We know Jesus bore the sins of the world in tremendous love, but I think someone needs to self reflect on why this has been

said, even if this thread is so abhorrent to some it can never justify maligning the very blood of Christ

i respect him for that comment, amen.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

there is only retaliation
that's what this thread is all about
self-righteousness and retaliation

an odd couple for sure

no his thread is about legalism, and exposing the lie that it is.

But it as usual, any head which has to do with grace is attacked and destroyed.

 

[Meggido]

I'm in tears that this thread should even exist.
I'm in tears that Christians could act like I've seen here.
I'm in tears that some here are very PROUDFUL and in the flesh, but accuse Others of being such.

There is much to be in tears about.
When I'm hurt I thinkj of Jesus on that bloody cross and forgive them.

I have not seen this demonstrated here.
Did Jesus not die for them?
Was His blood not shed for them?
They say they're Christian... do not not care to hurt Jesus and perhaps even make His Death in vain for them???

Makes one wonder how they treat people in their country clubs...er sorry, Churches...that disagree with them...

Tossed out on their ear I would imagine, given the ole left hand of fellowship heave ho...

Obviously with this crowd you have to believe a certain way to belong....if they are this way with fellow brothers and sisters, wonder how they are when the world comes to their church.....

 

[Magenta]

It is sad.. He willingly suffered for our sins so that if we believe we can be Saved and many deny His Testimony..

Does anyone here deny this testimony?

What point are you trying to make?

That nonbelievers do not believe?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

momentarily replying to you from ignore...and will not again....

NO, this thread should stop....and each side sit down and take a breather....

then practice what you preach and go away.

 

[PrynceNY]

I know not but you can see FranC is obviously very hurt.. I'm close to tears that this is taking place.. a sad sight. Nothing to gloat or gain say.

The unfortunate truth of it is some people thrive off of rebuking others.