The Rapture
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Two men will be in the field; one will be taken and the other left.
The above has nothing to do with anybody being "raptured"
Look back in your old testament to what invading armies did when conquering - they took the "best", i.e the able bodied, young wimin, artisans etc. back to serve them in their own countries, they left the feeble and unwanted behind.
The above has nothing to do with anybody being "raptured"
Look back in your old testament to what invading armies did when conquering - they took the "best", i.e the able bodied, young wimin, artisans etc. back to serve them in their own countries, they left the feeble and unwanted behind.
I agree. The famous rapture passages are 1 Thessalonians 4:16 and 1 Corinthians 15:51-53 and Titus 2:13.
The Matthew 24 'taken' is commonly thought to refer to judgment due to it being compared to Noah's flood.
Matthew 24:39-40
and did not know until the flood came and took them all away, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.
Then two men will be in the field: one will be taken and the other left.
I am aware that many people do use this verse to describe the rapture, however the few dispensationalist guys I have heard preach said that it was a mystery revealed to Paul and not something that was discussed in Matthew 24:40.
You are applying this to AD 70 as well? Good grief. Try again.
The Matthew 24 'taken' is commonly thought to refer to judgment due to it being compared to Noah's flood.
Matthew 24:39-40
and did not know until the flood came and took them all away, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.
Then two men will be in the field: one will be taken and the other left.
I am aware that many people do use this verse to describe the rapture, however the few dispensationalist guys I have heard preach said that it was a mystery revealed to Paul and not something that was discussed in Matthew 24:40.
You are applying this to AD 70 as well? Good grief. Try again.
Isa 51:16 “I have put My words in your mouth and have covered you with the shadow of My hand, to establish the heavens, to found the earth, and to say to Zion, ‘You are My people.’”
The "heavens and earth" were created when God gave the Law to the Israelite's.
Isaiah is recalling Deuteronomy where he gave the people the Law (My words) and Leviticus:
Lev 26:11 Moreover, I will make My dwelling among you, and My soul will not reject you.
Lev 26:12 ‘I will also walk among you and be your God, and you shall be My people.
The "heavens and earth" were created when God gave the Law to the Israelite's.
Isaiah is recalling Deuteronomy where he gave the people the Law (My words) and Leviticus:
Lev 26:11 Moreover, I will make My dwelling among you, and My soul will not reject you.
Lev 26:12 ‘I will also walk among you and be your God, and you shall be My people.
The Rapture then a great wailing and gnashing of teeth? Who do you suppose will be wailing and gnashing their teeth? The World? Not. They will think the Bride was taken away by aliens or some such thing because they were not worthy to go to the next evolution, the next upward stage of mankind. The wailing and gnashing of teeth will be that of "Beievers" who have missed the rapture. The bride comes out of the church. If you want to be a part of the bride, you had better make yourself ready.
Revelation 19:7
Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. The bride is those who are found watching for Him
Luke 12:37
Blessed are those servants, whom the lord when he cometh shall find watching: verily I say unto you, that he shall gird himself, and make them to sit down to meat, and will come forth and serve them.
[h=1]2 Timothy 4:8[/h] [SUP]8 [/SUP]All that awaits me now is the crown of righteousness which the Lord, “the Righteous Judge,” will award to me on that Day — and not only to me, but also to all who have longed for him to appear.
So....The bride has made herself ready, and is watching for Him. If she has not made herself ready, and is not watching for Him she will miss it....Ergo...Not all Christians are part of the bride.
Revelation 19:7
Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. The bride is those who are found watching for Him
Luke 12:37
Blessed are those servants, whom the lord when he cometh shall find watching: verily I say unto you, that he shall gird himself, and make them to sit down to meat, and will come forth and serve them.
[h=1]2 Timothy 4:8[/h] [SUP]8 [/SUP]All that awaits me now is the crown of righteousness which the Lord, “the Righteous Judge,” will award to me on that Day — and not only to me, but also to all who have longed for him to appear.
So....The bride has made herself ready, and is watching for Him. If she has not made herself ready, and is not watching for Him she will miss it....Ergo...Not all Christians are part of the bride.
they say rev 5:5 is haile selassie I of ethiopia....... they read the bible a lot mon u'd be surprised.