Catholic believe pope is infallible
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Have you ever thought of the fact that the person who kisses the feet of a statue may be making a weak person stumble?
One person may kiss the statue of Peter and think, "Thank you Jesus for giving me your gospel through Peter." However, a young onlooker may interpret this gesture as something that a good catholic must necessarily do.
The Bible gives us much freedom, but tells us to stop when our actions make others stumble. The statue kissing tradition has misled and destroyed many. No wonder God had banned the Israelites from even MAKING a statue.
As I have mentioned in another post, my grandmother believed that "Mother Mary" lived inside the statue standing on the home altar. My elder folks made me kiss the feet of saints and pray to them.
So, the bottom line is that our freedom of expression should not make someone else stumble.
One person may kiss the statue of Peter and think, "Thank you Jesus for giving me your gospel through Peter." However, a young onlooker may interpret this gesture as something that a good catholic must necessarily do.
The Bible gives us much freedom, but tells us to stop when our actions make others stumble. The statue kissing tradition has misled and destroyed many. No wonder God had banned the Israelites from even MAKING a statue.
As I have mentioned in another post, my grandmother believed that "Mother Mary" lived inside the statue standing on the home altar. My elder folks made me kiss the feet of saints and pray to them.
So, the bottom line is that our freedom of expression should not make someone else stumble.
There is ONE HEAD to EVERY Church.
EVERY CHURCH has a "Pope".
One is Jimmy Swaggart.
One is Joel Osteen.
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It often happens that two elders may not agree on a particular issue. However, this agreement can never be about fundamental Christian truths such as who is the head of the Church, for it is clear that Jesus is the head of the Church. In case of doctrinal issues or differences of opinions, elders may also consult mature christians, because elders are servants after all, and not Lords. Elders must seek the spiritual advice of one another and submit to one another and live in peace with each other. Thus they show themselves to be the disciples of the Head and Chief Shepherd- Jesus. An elder must be anything, but infallible. Even Moses often consulted the elders of Israel.
Yes, Jimmy Swaggart, Joel Osteen, Creflo Dollar, Joyce Meyer, Kenneth Copeland, Benny Hinn, Paula White, and other televangelists...are all self-appointed "Popes"
EVERY CHURCH has a "Pope".
One is Jimmy Swaggart.
One is Joel Osteen.
And so on....[/QUOTE]
It often happens that two elders may not agree on a particular issue. However, this agreement can never be about fundamental Christian truths such as who is the head of the Church, for it is clear that Jesus is the head of the Church. In case of doctrinal issues or differences of opinions, elders may also consult mature christians, because elders are servants after all, and not Lords. Elders must seek the spiritual advice of one another and submit to one another and live in peace with each other. Thus they show themselves to be the disciples of the Head and Chief Shepherd- Jesus. An elder must be anything, but infallible. Even Moses often consulted the elders of Israel.
Yes, Jimmy Swaggart, Joel Osteen, Creflo Dollar, Joyce Meyer, Kenneth Copeland, Benny Hinn, Paula White, and other televangelists...are all self-appointed "Popes"
It often happens that two elders may not agree on a particular issue. However, this agreement can never be about fundamental Christian truths such as who is the head of the Church, for it is clear that Jesus is the head of the Church. In case of doctrinal issues or differences of opinions, elders may also consult mature christians, because elders are servants after all, and not Lords. Elders must seek the spiritual advice of one another and submit to one another and live in peace with each other. Thus they show themselves to be the disciples of the Head and Chief Shepherd- Jesus. An elder must be anything, but infallible. Even Moses often consulted the elders of Israel.
Yes, Jimmy Swaggart, Joel Osteen, Creflo Dollar, Joyce Meyer, Kenneth Copeland, Benny Hinn, Paula White, and other televangelists...are all self-appointed "Popes"
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I like what you are saying, but Joel Osteen was a unanimous choice to replace his father by the elders of the church.
He has pastors that do the actual running of the church.
There's no reason to believe that the elders don't control the Lakewood Church.
Yes, Jimmy Swaggart, Joel Osteen, Creflo Dollar, Joyce Meyer, Kenneth Copeland, Benny Hinn, Paula White, and other televangelists...are all self-appointed "Popes"
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I like what you are saying, but Joel Osteen was a unanimous choice to replace his father by the elders of the church.
He has pastors that do the actual running of the church.
There's no reason to believe that the elders don't control the Lakewood Church.
It's nice that the priests are co-operative in your part of the world.
I know, but I speak from my experience with the catholic church.
I India!
It's unfortunate if it is because of our culture. I thought it was the same everywhere. I still have my doubts.
You keep saying the "love your brother" line to everyone. Are you saying that my brother's business is not my business? Are you saying that I must not correct my brother in love?
I know, but I speak from my experience with the catholic church.
I India!
It's unfortunate if it is because of our culture. I thought it was the same everywhere. I still have my doubts.You keep saying the "love your brother" line to everyone. Are you saying that my brother's business is not my business? Are you saying that I must not correct my brother in love?
Maybe Joel Osteen is not self appointed, but I disagree with his prosperity gospel. I once used to listen to his messages, but then he got too prosperity oriented. Of late, he has been plagued with controversies due to some public statements made by him.
All these guys are powerful speakers, but their love for money is something that turned me off. Anyway, may God bless the Lakewood Church. I'm sure the congregation is sincere. Who am I to judge? The Lord himself will test all the so called churches with fire(1 Cor 3:13-15)
All these guys are powerful speakers, but their love for money is something that turned me off. Anyway, may God bless the Lakewood Church. I'm sure the congregation is sincere. Who am I to judge? The Lord himself will test all the so called churches with fire(1 Cor 3:13-15)