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Jesus is the Rock of our salvation. God is the only Rock of our salvation.
Psalm 78:35
And they remembered that God was their rock, And the Most High God their Redeemer.
Genesis 49:24
But his bow remained firm, And his arms were agile, From the hands of the Mighty One of Jacob (From there is the Shepherd, the Stone of Israel),
Deuteronomy 32:15
"But Jeshurun grew fat and kicked-- You are grown fat, thick, and sleek-- Then he forsook God who made him, And scorned the Rock of his salvation.
2 Samuel 23:3
"The God of Israel said, The Rock of Israel spoke to me, 'He who rules over men righteously, Who rules in the fear of God,
Psalm 42:9
I will say to God my rock, "Why have You forgotten me? Why do I go mourning because of the oppression of the enemy?"
Isaiah 30:29
You will have songs as in the night when you keep the festival, And gladness of heart as when one marches to the sound of the flute, To go to the mountain of the LORD, to the Rock of Israel.
Habakkuk 1:12
Are You not from everlasting, O LORD, my God, my Holy One? We will not die You, O LORD, have appointed them to judge; And You, O Rock, have established them to correct.
2 Samuel 22:32
"For who is God, besides the LORD? And who is a rock, besides our God?
Psalm 18:31
For who is God, but the LORD? And who is a rock, except our God,
1 Samuel 2:2
"There is no one holy like the LORD, Indeed, there is no one besides You, Nor is there any rock like our God.
Isaiah 44:8
'Do not tremble and do not be afraid; Have I not long since announced it to you and declared it? And you are My witnesses. Is there any God besides Me, Or is there any other Rock? I know of none.'"
Deuteronomy 32:31
"Indeed their rock is not like our Rock, Even our enemies themselves judge this."
Deuteronomy 32:37
"And He will say, 'Where are their gods, The rock in which they sought refuge?
Psalm 144:1
Blessed be the LORD, my rock, Who trains my hands for war, And my fingers for battle;
Deuteronomy 32:4
"The Rock! His work is perfect, For all His ways are just; A God of faithfulness and without injustice, Righteous and upright is He.
Psalm 92:15
To declare that the LORD is upright; He is my rock, and there is no unrighteousness in Him.
Psalm 62:7
On God my salvation and my glory rest; The rock of my strength, my refuge is in God.
Psalm 28:1
To You, O LORD, I call; My rock, do not be deaf to me, For if You are silent to me, I will become like those who go down to the pit.
Psalm 31:1-3
In You, O LORD, I have taken refuge; Let me never be ashamed; In Your righteousness deliver me. Incline Your ear to me, rescue me quickly; Be to me a rock of strength, A stronghold to save me. For You are my rock and my fortress; For Your name's sake You will lead me and guide me.
Psalm 61:2
From the end of the earth I call to You when my heart is faint; Lead me to the rock that is higher than I.
Psalm 71:3
Be to me a rock of habitation to which I may continually come; You have given commandment to save me, For You are my rock and my fortress.
Isaiah 26:4
"Trust in the LORD forever, For in GOD the LORD, we have an everlasting Rock.
Psalm 94:22
But the LORD has been my stronghold, And my God the rock of my refuge.
2 Samuel 22:3
My God, my rock, in whom I take refuge, My shield and the horn of my salvation, my stronghold and my refuge; My savior, You save me from violence.
Psalm 18:2
The LORD is my rock and my fortress and my deliverer, My God, my rock, in whom I take refuge; My shield and the horn of my salvation, my stronghold.
Psalm 95:1
O come, let us sing for joy to the LORD, Let us shout joyfully to the rock of our salvation.
2 Samuel 22:47
"The LORD lives, and blessed be my rock; And exalted be God, the rock of my salvation,
Psalm 18:46
The LORD lives, and blessed be my rock; And exalted be the God of my salvation,
To be Continued
Psalm 78:35
And they remembered that God was their rock, And the Most High God their Redeemer.
Genesis 49:24
But his bow remained firm, And his arms were agile, From the hands of the Mighty One of Jacob (From there is the Shepherd, the Stone of Israel),
Deuteronomy 32:15
"But Jeshurun grew fat and kicked-- You are grown fat, thick, and sleek-- Then he forsook God who made him, And scorned the Rock of his salvation.
2 Samuel 23:3
"The God of Israel said, The Rock of Israel spoke to me, 'He who rules over men righteously, Who rules in the fear of God,
Psalm 42:9
I will say to God my rock, "Why have You forgotten me? Why do I go mourning because of the oppression of the enemy?"
Isaiah 30:29
You will have songs as in the night when you keep the festival, And gladness of heart as when one marches to the sound of the flute, To go to the mountain of the LORD, to the Rock of Israel.
Habakkuk 1:12
Are You not from everlasting, O LORD, my God, my Holy One? We will not die You, O LORD, have appointed them to judge; And You, O Rock, have established them to correct.
2 Samuel 22:32
"For who is God, besides the LORD? And who is a rock, besides our God?
Psalm 18:31
For who is God, but the LORD? And who is a rock, except our God,
1 Samuel 2:2
"There is no one holy like the LORD, Indeed, there is no one besides You, Nor is there any rock like our God.
Isaiah 44:8
'Do not tremble and do not be afraid; Have I not long since announced it to you and declared it? And you are My witnesses. Is there any God besides Me, Or is there any other Rock? I know of none.'"
Deuteronomy 32:31
"Indeed their rock is not like our Rock, Even our enemies themselves judge this."
Deuteronomy 32:37
"And He will say, 'Where are their gods, The rock in which they sought refuge?
Psalm 144:1
Blessed be the LORD, my rock, Who trains my hands for war, And my fingers for battle;
Deuteronomy 32:4
"The Rock! His work is perfect, For all His ways are just; A God of faithfulness and without injustice, Righteous and upright is He.
Psalm 92:15
To declare that the LORD is upright; He is my rock, and there is no unrighteousness in Him.
Psalm 62:7
On God my salvation and my glory rest; The rock of my strength, my refuge is in God.
Psalm 28:1
To You, O LORD, I call; My rock, do not be deaf to me, For if You are silent to me, I will become like those who go down to the pit.
Psalm 31:1-3
In You, O LORD, I have taken refuge; Let me never be ashamed; In Your righteousness deliver me. Incline Your ear to me, rescue me quickly; Be to me a rock of strength, A stronghold to save me. For You are my rock and my fortress; For Your name's sake You will lead me and guide me.
Psalm 61:2
From the end of the earth I call to You when my heart is faint; Lead me to the rock that is higher than I.
Psalm 71:3
Be to me a rock of habitation to which I may continually come; You have given commandment to save me, For You are my rock and my fortress.
Isaiah 26:4
"Trust in the LORD forever, For in GOD the LORD, we have an everlasting Rock.
Psalm 94:22
But the LORD has been my stronghold, And my God the rock of my refuge.
2 Samuel 22:3
My God, my rock, in whom I take refuge, My shield and the horn of my salvation, my stronghold and my refuge; My savior, You save me from violence.
Psalm 18:2
The LORD is my rock and my fortress and my deliverer, My God, my rock, in whom I take refuge; My shield and the horn of my salvation, my stronghold.
Psalm 95:1
O come, let us sing for joy to the LORD, Let us shout joyfully to the rock of our salvation.
2 Samuel 22:47
"The LORD lives, and blessed be my rock; And exalted be God, the rock of my salvation,
Psalm 18:46
The LORD lives, and blessed be my rock; And exalted be the God of my salvation,
To be Continued
Psalm 19:14
Let the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be
acceptable in Your sight, O LORD, my rock and my Redeemer.
Psalm 62:2
He only is my rock and my salvation, My stronghold; I shall not be greatly shaken.
Psalm 89:26
"He will cry to Me, 'You are my Father, My God, and the rock of my salvation.'
Isaiah 17:10
For you have forgotten the God of your salvation And have not remembered the rock of your refuge. Therefore you plant delightful plants And set them with vine slips of a strange god.
Isaiah 8:14
"Then He shall become a sanctuary; But to both the houses of Israel, a stone to strike and a rock to stumble over, And a snare and a trap for the inhabitants of Jerusalem.
Isaiah 28:16
Therefore thus says the Lord GOD, "Behold, I am laying in Zion a stone, a tested stone, A costly cornerstone for the foundation, firmly placed. He who believes in it will not be disturbed.
Psalm 118:22
The stone which the builders rejected Has become the chief corner stone.
Matthew 21:42
Jesus said to them, "Did you never read in the Scriptures, 'THE STONE WHICH THE BUILDERS REJECTED, THIS BECAME THE CHIEF CORNER stone; THIS CAME ABOUT FROM THE LORD, AND IT IS MARVELOUS IN OUR EYES'?
Mark 12:10
"Have you not even read this Scripture: 'THE STONE WHICH THE BUILDERS REJECTED, THIS BECAME THE CHIEF CORNER stone;
Luke 20:17
But Jesus looked at them and said, "What then is this that is written: 'THE STONE WHICH THE BUILDERS REJECTED, THIS BECAME THE CHIEF CORNER stone'?
Acts 4:11
"He is the STONE WHICH WAS REJECTED by you, THE BUILDERS, but WHICH BECAME THE CHIEF CORNER stone.
1 Peter 2:6-7
For this is contained in Scripture: "BEHOLD, I LAY IN ZION A CHOICE STONE, A PRECIOUS CORNER stone, AND HE WHO BELIEVES IN HIM WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED." This precious value, then, is for you who believe; but for those who disbelieve, "THE STONE WHICH THE BUILDERS REJECTED, THIS BECAME THE VERY CORNER stone,"
Matthew 21:44
"And he who falls on this stone will be broken to pieces; but on whomever it falls, it will scatter him like dust."
Luke 20:18
"Everyone who falls on that stone will be broken to pieces; but on whomever it falls, it will scatter him like dust."
Romans 9:32-33
Why? Because they did not pursue it by faith, but as though it were by works. They stumbled over the stumbling stone, just as it is written, "BEHOLD, I LAY IN ZION A STONE OF STUMBLING AND A ROCK OF OFFENSE, AND HE WHO BELIEVES IN HIM WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED."
1 Peter 2:4-8
And coming to Him as to a living stone which has been rejected by men, but is choice and precious in the sight of God, you also, as living stones, are being built up as a spiritual house for a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. For this is contained in Scripture: "BEHOLD, I LAY IN ZION A CHOICE STONE, A PRECIOUS CORNER stone, AND HE WHO BELIEVES IN HIM WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED."
Let the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be
acceptable in Your sight, O LORD, my rock and my Redeemer.
Psalm 62:2
He only is my rock and my salvation, My stronghold; I shall not be greatly shaken.
Psalm 89:26
"He will cry to Me, 'You are my Father, My God, and the rock of my salvation.'
Isaiah 17:10
For you have forgotten the God of your salvation And have not remembered the rock of your refuge. Therefore you plant delightful plants And set them with vine slips of a strange god.
Isaiah 8:14
"Then He shall become a sanctuary; But to both the houses of Israel, a stone to strike and a rock to stumble over, And a snare and a trap for the inhabitants of Jerusalem.
Isaiah 28:16
Therefore thus says the Lord GOD, "Behold, I am laying in Zion a stone, a tested stone, A costly cornerstone for the foundation, firmly placed. He who believes in it will not be disturbed.
Psalm 118:22
The stone which the builders rejected Has become the chief corner stone.
Matthew 21:42
Jesus said to them, "Did you never read in the Scriptures, 'THE STONE WHICH THE BUILDERS REJECTED, THIS BECAME THE CHIEF CORNER stone; THIS CAME ABOUT FROM THE LORD, AND IT IS MARVELOUS IN OUR EYES'?
Mark 12:10
"Have you not even read this Scripture: 'THE STONE WHICH THE BUILDERS REJECTED, THIS BECAME THE CHIEF CORNER stone;
Luke 20:17
But Jesus looked at them and said, "What then is this that is written: 'THE STONE WHICH THE BUILDERS REJECTED, THIS BECAME THE CHIEF CORNER stone'?
Acts 4:11
"He is the STONE WHICH WAS REJECTED by you, THE BUILDERS, but WHICH BECAME THE CHIEF CORNER stone.
1 Peter 2:6-7
For this is contained in Scripture: "BEHOLD, I LAY IN ZION A CHOICE STONE, A PRECIOUS CORNER stone, AND HE WHO BELIEVES IN HIM WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED." This precious value, then, is for you who believe; but for those who disbelieve, "THE STONE WHICH THE BUILDERS REJECTED, THIS BECAME THE VERY CORNER stone,"
Matthew 21:44
"And he who falls on this stone will be broken to pieces; but on whomever it falls, it will scatter him like dust."
Luke 20:18
"Everyone who falls on that stone will be broken to pieces; but on whomever it falls, it will scatter him like dust."
Romans 9:32-33
Why? Because they did not pursue it by faith, but as though it were by works. They stumbled over the stumbling stone, just as it is written, "BEHOLD, I LAY IN ZION A STONE OF STUMBLING AND A ROCK OF OFFENSE, AND HE WHO BELIEVES IN HIM WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED."
1 Peter 2:4-8
And coming to Him as to a living stone which has been rejected by men, but is choice and precious in the sight of God, you also, as living stones, are being built up as a spiritual house for a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. For this is contained in Scripture: "BEHOLD, I LAY IN ZION A CHOICE STONE, A PRECIOUS CORNER stone, AND HE WHO BELIEVES IN HIM WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED."
I did not say I never heard of it. I said I don't recall Jesus or the Apostles ever mentioning it. I also said that Jesus or the Apostles or John the Baptist never urged anyone to do anything about man's condition because of the sin of Adam. Rather they urged everyone to do something about man's condition because of man's own personal and willful sin. They urged everyone to repent of THEIR OWN SINS.
Yes, that's exactly what you came across saying. Please see your words below: I disagree. Whether it saves or not, is beyond the scope of this post. However, baptism is a command from God and is to be obeyed the way God wants it to be obeyed(not the way man wishes). Baptism has certain prerequisites, which are ignored during infant baptism.
Infant baptism is a man-made concept/sacrament/doctrine, and is invalid from the very the moment it is carried out. It does nothing to the child's relationship with God and is nothing more than sprinkling of H2O on the baby's forehead. The grown up child is no way bound by his infant baptism, something his parents did as a result of some erroneous doctrine. When a child grows up and reads the Bible and repents and is born again, he has to get baptized the right way. His baptism must be an act of obedience on HIS part, not his parents' part.
If done correctly, as the Bible says, one baptism is valid, and need not be repeated, since there is only one Lord, one faith, one baptism (Eph 4:5). Infant baptism cannot be counted as that one baptism, since it is not in line with the Bible.
Yes, that's exactly what you came across saying. Please see your words below: I disagree. Whether it saves or not, is beyond the scope of this post. However, baptism is a command from God and is to be obeyed the way God wants it to be obeyed(not the way man wishes). Baptism has certain prerequisites, which are ignored during infant baptism.
Infant baptism is a man-made concept/sacrament/doctrine, and is invalid from the very the moment it is carried out. It does nothing to the child's relationship with God and is nothing more than sprinkling of H2O on the baby's forehead. The grown up child is no way bound by his infant baptism, something his parents did as a result of some erroneous doctrine. When a child grows up and reads the Bible and repents and is born again, he has to get baptized the right way. His baptism must be an act of obedience on HIS part, not his parents' part.
If done correctly, as the Bible says, one baptism is valid, and need not be repeated, since there is only one Lord, one faith, one baptism (Eph 4:5). Infant baptism cannot be counted as that one baptism, since it is not in line with the Bible.
This statement surprises me! This clearly indicates the catholic mindset!
One reason why catholics do not understand why they should read the bible is that: They do not believe that the bible is the ultimate and inspired Word of God.
They believe it's a nice old book, and that times have changed, and that we must use common sense to pick and choose what seems right for the present times. I say this from my personal discussion with a "parish priest" and a leader of the SVP (Society of Saint Vincent de Paul). No wonder, it does not matter to the average catholic when the Ecumenical Councils add to the teachings of the Bible or change it.
Another reason why the average catholic does not understand why he or she should read the Bible is: He or she often leaves Bible reading and teaching to the priest. An average catholic is quite unfamiliar with the Bible, and therefore feels that it is quite difficult to understand. After all, it is the duty of the Priest to read and teach the Bible. Anyway, the approval of an ordained priest is equal to the approval of God. Catholics cannot do anything without the consent or approval or assistance or blessing or sanctification by a priest. A new house must be blessed by a priest. The holy water must be blessed by the priest. The Eucharistic "host" must be blessed by a priest. Confession of sins must involve a priest. Everything must involve a priest. Bible reading is no different.
Another reason why catholics do not feel the need to read the Bible is: They are more focused on traditions rather than the Word of God.
There is no personal quest for God!!! They believe that holiness and acceptance by God is based on how many times they attend Mass or how many times they say the rosary, etc. They are trained to feel happy and accepted by God if they regularly attend mass and partake in the Holy Eucharist and confess their sins as and when required. A good amount of effort is directed towards getting some habitual and unrepentant sin erased by indulgences or by doing penance or some good works. In order to get a prayer answered, a catholic would repeat "Our Fathers" and "Hail Marys" or prayers from a novena booklet rather than read God's instruction manual and set straight the course of their lives.
Having said that, I must also say that I know of some catholics who read their bibles regularly. Some read a few Bible verses from a rosary booklet during the rosary recital.
One reason why catholics do not understand why they should read the bible is that: They do not believe that the bible is the ultimate and inspired Word of God.
They believe it's a nice old book, and that times have changed, and that we must use common sense to pick and choose what seems right for the present times. I say this from my personal discussion with a "parish priest" and a leader of the SVP (Society of Saint Vincent de Paul). No wonder, it does not matter to the average catholic when the Ecumenical Councils add to the teachings of the Bible or change it.
Another reason why the average catholic does not understand why he or she should read the Bible is: He or she often leaves Bible reading and teaching to the priest. An average catholic is quite unfamiliar with the Bible, and therefore feels that it is quite difficult to understand. After all, it is the duty of the Priest to read and teach the Bible. Anyway, the approval of an ordained priest is equal to the approval of God. Catholics cannot do anything without the consent or approval or assistance or blessing or sanctification by a priest. A new house must be blessed by a priest. The holy water must be blessed by the priest. The Eucharistic "host" must be blessed by a priest. Confession of sins must involve a priest. Everything must involve a priest. Bible reading is no different.
Another reason why catholics do not feel the need to read the Bible is: They are more focused on traditions rather than the Word of God.
There is no personal quest for God!!! They believe that holiness and acceptance by God is based on how many times they attend Mass or how many times they say the rosary, etc. They are trained to feel happy and accepted by God if they regularly attend mass and partake in the Holy Eucharist and confess their sins as and when required. A good amount of effort is directed towards getting some habitual and unrepentant sin erased by indulgences or by doing penance or some good works. In order to get a prayer answered, a catholic would repeat "Our Fathers" and "Hail Marys" or prayers from a novena booklet rather than read God's instruction manual and set straight the course of their lives.
Having said that, I must also say that I know of some catholics who read their bibles regularly. Some read a few Bible verses from a rosary booklet during the rosary recital.
Mat 16:16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
Mat 16:17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
Mat 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
Mat 16:19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
1Co 3:9 For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building.
1Co 3:10 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.
1Co 3:11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
Eph 2:18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
Eph 2:19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
Eph 2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
Eph 2:21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:
Eph 2:22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.
Eph 4:15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
Eph 4:16 From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love.
Jesus Christ is the foundation of the Church,and the head of the body of the Church,who is God manifest in the flesh,and the man Christ Jesus the first human to be part of the kingdom of God.
The Church is like a building where the saints are built upon each other like bricks,and everyone that you convert is built upon you.
Peter is the first person to be added to the Church,built upon Christ.After the foundation of Christ,all the rest of the Church is built upon Peter,which all 12 disciples would be built upon Christ in some order,then all the rest of the Church.
We would be built upon all that were converted before us,and all we convert,and those who come after us is built upon us.
Peter is the first person added to the Church,but the foundation is Jesus Christ,for the man Christ Jesus is above Peter.
Mat 16:17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
Mat 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
Mat 16:19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
1Co 3:9 For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building.
1Co 3:10 According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon.
1Co 3:11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
Eph 2:18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
Eph 2:19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
Eph 2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
Eph 2:21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:
Eph 2:22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.
Eph 4:15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
Eph 4:16 From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love.
Jesus Christ is the foundation of the Church,and the head of the body of the Church,who is God manifest in the flesh,and the man Christ Jesus the first human to be part of the kingdom of God.
The Church is like a building where the saints are built upon each other like bricks,and everyone that you convert is built upon you.
Peter is the first person to be added to the Church,built upon Christ.After the foundation of Christ,all the rest of the Church is built upon Peter,which all 12 disciples would be built upon Christ in some order,then all the rest of the Church.
We would be built upon all that were converted before us,and all we convert,and those who come after us is built upon us.
Peter is the first person added to the Church,but the foundation is Jesus Christ,for the man Christ Jesus is above Peter.
I'm not sure what you mean in the first paragraph. I think you mean that we live in modern times and the bible has become outdated? IOW, it's not a book for today. I don't personally know anyone who thinks this.
I do know persons that believe it's more important to read the Catechism of the Catholic Church than the bible.
This would fit in nicely with your ideas. And you're right about a priest having to be involved in everything.
I did a study on the book of Mathew twice already (with the permission of the priest of our parish) and some women would not come because a priest would not be present. Some did come however.
As to the last paragraph. There would be much to be said. Let them do what they feel is right. It never hurts to do too much.
Some on these threads feel you don't really have to do anything. Some go to Mass every week because they want to. A friend of mine goes because she's used to it. I'm not even sure she's saved but that's not for me to say.
Some have started to go to bible study.
But the churches are becoming empty. There's much talk about this.
The church here doesn't know exactly what to do about this.
I do know persons that believe it's more important to read the Catechism of the Catholic Church than the bible.
This would fit in nicely with your ideas. And you're right about a priest having to be involved in everything.
I did a study on the book of Mathew twice already (with the permission of the priest of our parish) and some women would not come because a priest would not be present. Some did come however.
As to the last paragraph. There would be much to be said. Let them do what they feel is right. It never hurts to do too much.
Some on these threads feel you don't really have to do anything. Some go to Mass every week because they want to. A friend of mine goes because she's used to it. I'm not even sure she's saved but that's not for me to say.
Some have started to go to bible study.
But the churches are becoming empty. There's much talk about this.
The church here doesn't know exactly what to do about this.