Catholic believe pope is infallible
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No Fran....it is the Catholic Church...........Mystery Babylon.....the root of ALL false belief systems and pseudo gospels....!
MARY is nothing more than a blessed woman who the God of heaven used for the birth of JESUS....she was a sinner like the rest of us and bows to her SON JESUS as GOD......
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The popes wax poetic on Mary and devote infallible dogmas to her instead of to Jesus, and direct people to pray to her instead of to Jesus against the clear instruction of Scripture, plus say she was sinless so that God could be sinless as if God in the flesh could not be sinless unless she was first. I am not sure how they do not have any problem with their thinking and believing these things. Perhaps they are simply so deceived and so deluded or so duped and brainwashed and scared they don't bother to fact check the RCC heresies against Biblical truth. Many Roman Catholics thankfully do at some point start reading the Bible for themselves and discover how deceived they were by the RCC. For some this good news, and for others it is bad news. Some of the most bitter atheists I have met were former RCC members.
It would be interesting to understand WHY people hate the Catholic Church so much.
It kept many heresies out of the early Church.
It kept Islam from invading the known world. If it weren't for the Catholic Church, we'd be speaking Arabic instead of English.
I see pastors on TV selling oils and prayer beads and pieces of cloth that they say will make miracles happen; people to get well, get a job, get money and whatever else they want.
I hear that if I send in a certain sum, I'll be planting a seed and God will multiply that seed and make me rich.
I see pastors making fools of their congregation when certain ones will be exorcised of some demon or other.
Possession does exist but the Catholic Church really believes this and treats this aspect of forces with respect and dignity.
I see rock and roll bands up on the same "stage" where the sermon will be given. And the younger persons in the crowd dancing and carrying on as if they were at a rock concert.
And to think that Jesus was mad because there were money changers and sellers of animals on the temple grounds --- not even really near the temple. I shudder to think what JESUS MUST THINK OF THESE DISPLAYS.
I find all of the above horrific, but there is never a word spoken about these actions.
Somehow, what the CAtholic Church does is worse....
What do we care what they do? Are we sure all our beliefs are true? How could we know for sure?
It's biblical? WHO put the bible together? Protestants?
We should all show a little dignity and respect for all churches that act according to God's will and do their best to bring the gospel message to the world --- whether we agree with every doctrine or not.
It kept many heresies out of the early Church.
It kept Islam from invading the known world. If it weren't for the Catholic Church, we'd be speaking Arabic instead of English.
I see pastors on TV selling oils and prayer beads and pieces of cloth that they say will make miracles happen; people to get well, get a job, get money and whatever else they want.
I hear that if I send in a certain sum, I'll be planting a seed and God will multiply that seed and make me rich.
I see pastors making fools of their congregation when certain ones will be exorcised of some demon or other.
Possession does exist but the Catholic Church really believes this and treats this aspect of forces with respect and dignity.
I see rock and roll bands up on the same "stage" where the sermon will be given. And the younger persons in the crowd dancing and carrying on as if they were at a rock concert.
And to think that Jesus was mad because there were money changers and sellers of animals on the temple grounds --- not even really near the temple. I shudder to think what JESUS MUST THINK OF THESE DISPLAYS.
I find all of the above horrific, but there is never a word spoken about these actions.
Somehow, what the CAtholic Church does is worse....
What do we care what they do? Are we sure all our beliefs are true? How could we know for sure?
It's biblical? WHO put the bible together? Protestants?
We should all show a little dignity and respect for all churches that act according to God's will and do their best to bring the gospel message to the world --- whether we agree with every doctrine or not.
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It is true some do come out, but so many just really do not stop and examine for themselves, they trust the ideas of evil men with their their eternity.
As a former Catholic, even from a young age I could see the theology was not rational and actually laughable it is so bizarre, although I cannot laugh because I know it has done so so much harm!!!
But it was that lack of coherence in their dogma that made me set out and search for truth, but you are right many become bitter atheist.
I do believe that the upper hierarchy of the RCC is steeped in evil.
As a former Catholic, even from a young age I could see the theology was not rational and actually laughable it is so bizarre, although I cannot laugh because I know it has done so so much harm!!!
But it was that lack of coherence in their dogma that made me set out and search for truth, but you are right many become bitter atheist.
I do believe that the upper hierarchy of the RCC is steeped in evil.
Some of the most bitter persons I've met are former Protestants who were taught they were supposed to live life without ever sinning.
BTW, It's not correct to call it the Roman Catholic Church. It's just the Catholic Church.
Roman is just a rite, like the Latin rite. It's not the Latin Catholic Church.
Same difference. (and there are more)
BTW, It's not correct to call it the Roman Catholic Church. It's just the Catholic Church.
Roman is just a rite, like the Latin rite. It's not the Latin Catholic Church.
Same difference. (and there are more)
The Catholic Church does not do the bolded....they push a religion, sacramental pseudo salvation, elevate men to the stature of God, push idolatry, a non-existent place (purgatory) and are as false as Anton Levey and His 1st Church of Satan.......they kept nothing out of the so called EARLY CHURCH....and as a matter of fact the LORD'S CHURCHES (plural) were in existence for some 300 years before the CATHOLIC CHURCH and Constantine.....contrary to popular belief....PETER was not the 1st POPE of anything and was crucified UPSIDE in ROME by the ROMAN government around the same time PAUL was beheaded.........
The Roman Emperor Constantine established himself as the head of the church around 313 A.D., which made this new "Christianity" the official religion of the Roman Empire. The first actual Pope in Rome was probably Leo I (440-461 A.D.), although some claim that Gregory I was the first (590-604 A.D.). This ungodly system eventually ushered in the darkest period of history known to man, properly known as the "Dark Ages" (500-1500 A.D.). Through popes, bishops, and priests, Satan ruled Europe, and Biblical Christianity became illegal. Throughout all of this, however, there remained individual groups of true Christians, such as the Waldensens and the Anabaptists who would not conform to the Roman system.
you admit she is not omni present. Mean she not able to hear Multi million people from all over the world maling prayer request
than why catholic do so?
it doesn't matter whether It is intercessory pray or pray to, you Said she is not omni present.
base oN love don't you Reminders them that what they doing is wrong.
you Accused me hate Mary, why. Can you prove It
you Said catholic keep heresies out of the church?
my dear, catholic itself is heresy.
you Said catholic keep islam from invading the world?
Professor Walter Said catholic created islam
this is the link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-530iXmGSJM
You want me to go tell Catholics that they shouldn't pray to Mary?
Should I go tell Calvinists that Calvin is an idiot?
Should I go tell the Word of Faith movement that God is not Santa Claus?
Should I go tell Hyper-Gracers that God EXPECTS them to do some work while they're here on this earth?
No?
Then why should I go tell Caholics they shouldn't pray to Mary?
They could do whatever they want to --- just like EVERY OTHER CHURCH.
I don't do links.
that means that I don't go to links, or look them up, or listen to them.
I don't care who Professor Walter is.
This is what I like:
HISTORY.
Try it sometime.
Just for those reading along:
I thought Muhammad created Islam.
Can I be wrong? Usually I'm right.
Because you love them.
if you think calvinis is wrong, tell them with love.
Jesus Said love your fellow man like yourself.
Did you read my long post up there?
Guess not.
WHAT do you think is heretical about the Catholic Church?
Since the Catholic Church made up all of Christian doctrine, WHAT COULD POSSIBLY BE HERETICAL???
Try to think of something besides MARY.
Thanks.
I know all about what Jesus said and I agree with you that we should love our fellow man.
Believe me, CATHOLICS KNOW CALVIN IS WRONG.
No need to tell them.
Do you really know about them???
Maybe not.
you are, mohammad is a Pupet, work for vatican. Did you open the link?
let me quote part of lumen gentium 2/16 what catholic say about islam
16. Finally, those who have not yet received the Gospel are related in various ways to the people of God.(18*) In the first place we must recall the people to whom the testament and the promises were given and from whom Christ was born according to the flesh.(125) On account of their fathers this people remains most dear to God, for God does not repent of the gifts He makes nor of the calls He issues.
(126); But the plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator. In the first place amongst these there are the
Mohamedans, who, professing to hold the faith of Abraham, along with us adore the one and merciful God, who on the last day will
judge mankind. Nor is God far distant from those who in shadows and images seek the unknown God,
Do you believe, Mohammadans include in the plan of salvation.?