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Imputed righteousness is correct.
Of our own we have no righteousness.
Penal Substitution?
I can't decide. Both ideas can be proven biblically. Both the substitution idea and the atonement idea where we are saved from the power of satan. Right now, for me, it's a combination of the two and I wouldn't argue either one with much force.
Do you have a preference? I see Grace posted a video. I won't have a chance to listen to it till Tomorrow.
I hope it talks of the two concepts.
"The Sermon on the Mount is legal in character and its purpose was condemnatory."
If one believe the sermon on the Mount is just to create condemnation obviously
sin is present and failure is so prevalent in ones life.
Walking in the Spirit will warm ones heart reading Jesus's teaching and encouragement.
The difference is reaction defines the difference between those who walk in the flesh
and find the principles impossible to follow or understand as opposed to those who
know the Holy Spirit working in their hearts.
we cannot express how disappointed we are in those whom we Love so much,
for being baited or just confused about what is being said and shared and expressed -
what concerns us the most, is the fact that we have witnessed a different side of those whom
we Love so much. This is not saying that we don't Love them as much or even more, but just
that we are so disappointed in that they would allow others to bring them down to the level that
they are so opposed to...
JAMES 5:7.
Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of The Lord. Behold, the Husbandman waiteth
for the precious fruit of the earth, and hath long patience for it, until He receive the early and latter rain.
for being baited or just confused about what is being said and shared and expressed -
what concerns us the most, is the fact that we have witnessed a different side of those whom
we Love so much. This is not saying that we don't Love them as much or even more, but just
that we are so disappointed in that they would allow others to bring them down to the level that
they are so opposed to...
JAMES 5:7.
Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of The Lord. Behold, the Husbandman waiteth
for the precious fruit of the earth, and hath long patience for it, until He receive the early and latter rain.
Yeah Well.
Your not as intelligent as we are.
You haven't read enough books.
And those glasses aren't helping you any.
Why not join us.
Maybe you could shed some light on the subject???
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Ariel82
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I am glad we are in agreement about imputed righteousness and I believe the atonement theology has more biblical basis.
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UnderGrace
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I have read a fair number... (Kant, Bruber, Sproul, Tillich, MacArthur, Moody, Bridges, Kierkegaard, Lewis, Augustine, Aquinas, Chesterton, Luther, Wesley, Merton...and I could go on )and many on here have too.....try again.
I really hate it when people just make assumptions.
Theologians, arghh... do not even get me started.....
I really hate it when people just make assumptions.
Theologians, arghh... do not even get me started.....
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Ariel82
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Your sarcastic humor may not be appreciated by some.....
Someone is gonna take you seriously.
It has to do with them NOT being His friends. Or they wouldn't have done what they did..
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UnderGrace
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Yup Magenta it is true and very frustrating!!
Some people just want to stir the pot so to speak, they are not here to learn or reconsider their ideas on something or even engage in a friendly debate.
It is really too bad for them cause if they had a good scriptural basis for their position there would no need to lie and twist things a million ways til Sunday!!
Some people just want to stir the pot so to speak, they are not here to learn or reconsider their ideas on something or even engage in a friendly debate.
It is really too bad for them cause if they had a good scriptural basis for their position there would no need to lie and twist things a million ways til Sunday!!
How would YOU know how intelligent he is? Or how many books he's read? Are you psychic now?
Don't I Always hear on this thread that the law is to teach us about sin?
Well, is it or isn't it?????
Why do you think God gave the Israelites the Law to begin with?
Do you think it might be because they were slaves for almost 400 years and had forgotten what it meant to be civil?
Children must learn to be civil, as do some adults.
Do I automatically know how to love my neighbor if I don't even know what A SIN IS??
Did you know that most kids feel they've never sinned?
I've taught kdis for years. Give me a LITTLE TINY BIT of credit.
