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You're not missing much sis. It was too bad she attacked me in PM over not supporting her that someone lied about her (which really didn't take place). Seemed quite callow to me, but I got the "this conversation is over!!!" at the end of her PM. Wouldn't be surprised if she has me on ignore, but, some are simply callow no matter their age.
I don't know why anyone would be surprised that God calls us to both repent and believe (when both must come from and do come from God) while being impossible on our own. These, repentance and faith, must be granted from God.
But God also gave us commands in the OT that were impossible to keep. So that being said this is not out of character for God to command us to do what is not possible without Him but some simply cannot put 2 and 2 together.
I don't know why anyone would be surprised that God calls us to both repent and believe (when both must come from and do come from God) while being impossible on our own. These, repentance and faith, must be granted from God.
But God also gave us commands in the OT that were impossible to keep. So that being said this is not out of character for God to command us to do what is not possible without Him but some simply cannot put 2 and 2 together.
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Romans 10:11-13 (NASB)
[SUP]11 [/SUP] For the Scripture says, "WHOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED."
[SUP]12 [/SUP] For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him;
[SUP]13 [/SUP] for "WHOEVER WILL CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED."
Galatians 3:22 (KJV)
[SUP]22 [/SUP] But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.
1 Timothy 4:10-11 (NASB)
[SUP]10 [/SUP] For it is for this we labor and strive, because we have fixed our hope on the living God, who is the Savior of all men, especially of believers.
[SUP]11 [/SUP] Prescribe and teach these things.
Why "especially of believers if God is the Savior of all men?" - because they believed when they heard the message of Christ. It's those that receive the abundance of grace and the gift of righteousness that reign through the Lord Jesus Christ.
Romans 5:17-18 (NASB)
[SUP]17 [/SUP] For if by the transgression of the one, death reigned through the one, much more those who receive the abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness will reign in life through the One, Jesus Christ.
[SUP]18 [/SUP] So then as through one transgression there resulted condemnation to all men, even so through one act of righteousness there resulted justification of life to all men.
Everything that Adam did to man-kind - Jesus un-did! There is now available to "all men" ( no women of course because the bible clearly says "men" here...
) the justification of life to all those that believe on Christ.
I looked up the word "all" in the Greek and sure enough - all means "all, everyone, each, every"...go figure?...
[SUP]11 [/SUP] For the Scripture says, "WHOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED."
[SUP]12 [/SUP] For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him;
[SUP]13 [/SUP] for "WHOEVER WILL CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED."
Galatians 3:22 (KJV)
[SUP]22 [/SUP] But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.
1 Timothy 4:10-11 (NASB)
[SUP]10 [/SUP] For it is for this we labor and strive, because we have fixed our hope on the living God, who is the Savior of all men, especially of believers.
[SUP]11 [/SUP] Prescribe and teach these things.
Why "especially of believers if God is the Savior of all men?" - because they believed when they heard the message of Christ. It's those that receive the abundance of grace and the gift of righteousness that reign through the Lord Jesus Christ.
Romans 5:17-18 (NASB)
[SUP]17 [/SUP] For if by the transgression of the one, death reigned through the one, much more those who receive the abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness will reign in life through the One, Jesus Christ.
[SUP]18 [/SUP] So then as through one transgression there resulted condemnation to all men, even so through one act of righteousness there resulted justification of life to all men.
Everything that Adam did to man-kind - Jesus un-did! There is now available to "all men" ( no women of course because the bible clearly says "men" here...
) the justification of life to all those that believe on Christ.I looked up the word "all" in the Greek and sure enough - all means "all, everyone, each, every"...go figure?...
And, it's really weird that "all" of Jerusalem and Judea went out to be baptized by John the Baptist, only to have Herod return a while later to kill him. Why do you think that happened? Should be an interesting story. (Matt. 3:5)
Hundreds of times used in the NT, and yet you think it means the exact same thing each and every time?
Cool, then explained that story with Herod getting baptized! That's a new one!
As it is written - Malachi 1:2-3. That is, the distribution of favors is on the principle advanced by the prophet, and is in accordance with the declaration that God had in fact loved the one and hated the other.
Jacob - This refers, doubtless, to the posterity of Jacob.
Have I loved - I have shown affection for that people; I have bestowed on them great privileges and blessings, as proofs of attachment. I have preferred Jacob to Esau.
Esau - The descendants of Esau, the Edomites; see Malachi 1:4.
Have I hated - This does not mean any positive hatred; but that he had preferred Jacob, and had withheld from Esau those privileges and blessings which he had conferred on the posterity of Jacob. This is explained in Malachi 1:3," And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness;" compare Jeremiah 49:17-18; Ezekiel 35:6. It was common among the Hebrews to use the terms "love" and "hatred" in this comparative sense, where the former implied strong positive attachment, and the latter, not positive hatred, but merely a less love, or the withholding of the expressions of affection; compare Genesis 29:30-31; Proverbs 13:24, "He that spareth his rod hateth his son; but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes;" Matthew 6:24, "No man can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other," etc.; Luke 14:26, "if any man come to me, and hate not his father and mother, etc." -Barnes comentary.
During the OT God did choose a nation over all other nations. God chose a lineage of people to bring about the Savior of the WORLD.
God acted in ways to bring history to a point history was finally ready for the prophecies of a savior to be made real.
God preferred Jacob over Esau. Both knew of God and surely was taught of God. But one lived worldly and one found himself wrestling with God and living for God.
God knew these two children would end up that way. Just as he knows who will be left in the book of life. Just as he knew Judas would betray Jesus.
He is all knowing and knew Esau would not choose God. He knew Judas would betray. God didnt force them he knew.
He hardened pharoahs heart. Just as Saul was allowed to be tempted by evil Spirits, so was Pharaoh. And they without force gave in by their own desires to do evil. Reprobate mind.
Just as Job in the first few verses of God speaking to Job says who are you to question me?
Its unthinkable to try and explain what Gods activities are compared to human free will. We are told a lot of Gods activities in the OT to bring about Gods promise.
Gods promise to bring a savior to save the world. It was Gods plan all along knowing Adam due to free will would give birth to sin.
We are living in the promise. The grace by faith. God has now gave the world a choice. At what extent is Gods activities to bring forth the end. We are given signs but do we know if Gods hand is active in bringing the end, or if God can see in future human events when its time for him to come.
We seem to get confused with OT actions of God was to bring a savior in NT to save ALL who believes.
We become the elect once we answered the calling of God in faith.
Almost the whole world has had Gods Word preached. Will they chose to answer the call within to believe in Christ or remain in rebellion.
Thank God everyone has this choice but sadly many ignore the tugging of God on ones soul.
Jacob - This refers, doubtless, to the posterity of Jacob.
Have I loved - I have shown affection for that people; I have bestowed on them great privileges and blessings, as proofs of attachment. I have preferred Jacob to Esau.
Esau - The descendants of Esau, the Edomites; see Malachi 1:4.
Have I hated - This does not mean any positive hatred; but that he had preferred Jacob, and had withheld from Esau those privileges and blessings which he had conferred on the posterity of Jacob. This is explained in Malachi 1:3," And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness;" compare Jeremiah 49:17-18; Ezekiel 35:6. It was common among the Hebrews to use the terms "love" and "hatred" in this comparative sense, where the former implied strong positive attachment, and the latter, not positive hatred, but merely a less love, or the withholding of the expressions of affection; compare Genesis 29:30-31; Proverbs 13:24, "He that spareth his rod hateth his son; but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes;" Matthew 6:24, "No man can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other," etc.; Luke 14:26, "if any man come to me, and hate not his father and mother, etc." -Barnes comentary.
During the OT God did choose a nation over all other nations. God chose a lineage of people to bring about the Savior of the WORLD.
God acted in ways to bring history to a point history was finally ready for the prophecies of a savior to be made real.
God preferred Jacob over Esau. Both knew of God and surely was taught of God. But one lived worldly and one found himself wrestling with God and living for God.
God knew these two children would end up that way. Just as he knows who will be left in the book of life. Just as he knew Judas would betray Jesus.
He is all knowing and knew Esau would not choose God. He knew Judas would betray. God didnt force them he knew.
He hardened pharoahs heart. Just as Saul was allowed to be tempted by evil Spirits, so was Pharaoh. And they without force gave in by their own desires to do evil. Reprobate mind.
Just as Job in the first few verses of God speaking to Job says who are you to question me?
Its unthinkable to try and explain what Gods activities are compared to human free will. We are told a lot of Gods activities in the OT to bring about Gods promise.
Gods promise to bring a savior to save the world. It was Gods plan all along knowing Adam due to free will would give birth to sin.
We are living in the promise. The grace by faith. God has now gave the world a choice. At what extent is Gods activities to bring forth the end. We are given signs but do we know if Gods hand is active in bringing the end, or if God can see in future human events when its time for him to come.
We seem to get confused with OT actions of God was to bring a savior in NT to save ALL who believes.
We become the elect once we answered the calling of God in faith.
Almost the whole world has had Gods Word preached. Will they chose to answer the call within to believe in Christ or remain in rebellion.
Thank God everyone has this choice but sadly many ignore the tugging of God on ones soul.
Hello Iamlearning God bless you.
[SUP]8 [SUP]8 [/SUP]For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith Jehovah. [SUP]9 [/SUP]For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
We are not supposed to understand it all and for me that is a major comfort. The things we need to know He will reveal to us supernaturally through the Holy Spirit and the Bible. The Bible and the Holy Spirit are able to discern all the thoughts and intentions and fix all the confusions. We might not have the answers today but we have the One who has the answers. He doesn't require us to know it all. He only requires us to believe and He also gives us the ability to do that too.
Hebrews 4:12
[SUP]12 [/SUP]For the word of God is living, and active, and sharper than any two-edged sword, and piercing even to the dividing of soul and spirit, of both joints and marrow, and quick to discern the thoughts and intents of the heart. [SUP]13 [/SUP]And there is no creature that is not manifest in his sight: but all things are naked and laid open before the eyes of him with whom we have to do.
So as we are seeking the truth from God He has promised to reveal these things to us. It is His will that none would perish but that ALL would come to repentance and the knowledge of the truth. So if you are knocking He has promised to open and answer.
John 3:16-17 [SUP]16 [/SUP]For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth on him should not perish, but have eternal life. [SUP]17 [/SUP]For God sent not the Son into the world to judge the world; but that the world should be saved through him.
Daring to believe that God does in fact love you personally so much that He sent His Son Jesus to die for your sins. He make the way clear for you to come. Believing this will settle your heart about all the other questions you will come to ask in the future. He is not a respecter of persons. His love is for all who will dare to believe Him. And He promises all who come He will in no way cast them out. That is a promise.
And when you later think "did I really believe the right way?" He will also give you the assurance you need at the time you need it. Another truth is when He saves us we are sealed by the Holy Spirit of promise. So many promises for the redeemed. Faith is a gift among many many gifts He gives His children.
(can't get the sizing on the Bible verses from Bible gateway to line up with my text)
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This is why a good study on what is the gift of God should be done by all. Is it grace? Faith? Both? Or the gift being the choice to except Gods grace.
For who say Faith is Gods salvation gift. Then they are agreeing that God elects who to give faith to. Irresistible election, irresistible grace.
Not to get mixed up with spiritual gifts which come after being given the Spirit.
For who say Faith is Gods salvation gift. Then they are agreeing that God elects who to give faith to. Irresistible election, irresistible grace.
Not to get mixed up with spiritual gifts which come after being given the Spirit.
