You should stick with what the Bible says. Saying we all drink of the same Spirit is not the same as saying 'there is no other drink' of the Spirit.
Oh ho. But tongue speakers are saying, we have another drink of the Holy Spirit to get this tongue ( hence the another baptism of the Holy Ghost with evidence of tongues ) OR for those that believe we receive the Holy Spirit with tongues as separate from salvation, then they are claiming they had that drink of the One Spirit over other believers that do not have that drink.
So it is in contrast I say what Paul meant in 1 Corinthians 12:13 , especially in relations to spiritual gifts which has the one baptism of the Holy Ghost at our salvation Romans 8:9 ) has nothing to do with believers seeking spiritual gifts when He is already in them.
Who are YOU supposed to pray to for spiritual gifts? Jesus Christ at that throne of grace. Jesus answers prayers.
John 14:[SUP]6 [/SUP]Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me....[SUP]13 [/SUP]And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.[SUP]14 [/SUP]If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
Asking the Holy Spirit to answer by falling on saved believers in bringing tongues or other sensational signs in the flesh like falling down is not the Holy Spirit answering those prayers BECAUSE that is not His JOB !!!!
Climbing up another way around Jesus to the Holy Spirit for that tongue is why it never comes with interpretation but is a stranger's voice.
John 10:1Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.[SUP]2 [/SUP]But he that entereth in by the door is the shepherd of the sheep.[SUP]3 [/SUP]To him the porter openeth; and the sheep hear his voice: and he calleth his own sheep by name, and leadeth them out.[SUP]4 [/SUP]And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice.[SUP]5 [/SUP]And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.
You want to follow that voice? I can't stop you. I can only pray for you.
Paul says to be filled with the Spirit. The implication is that it is possible for a believer not to be filled. If that were not the case, what would be the purpose of the instruction to be filled with the Spirit in Ephesians.
There are other calls to be sober rather than be drunk with wine that does not call for a continuous filling of the Spirit. Ephesians is a call to remain filled with the fruits of the Spirit rather than sow to the works of the flesh by being drunk with wine.
You are twisting scripture to support your own doctrine. We can all read it and see it does not say what you assert.
But.. you are reading your experience and that tongue which comes with no interpretation into scripture, thereby twisting scripture to support your tongue that was in the world before Pentecost had come and to support the other apostate calling that is not of Him.
I've heard some songs about asking people to fall.
That is all it takes to lead believers into thinking something that has already happened in the past when they are singing it as if it is currently something a believer is to do, and so when it does happen, no one, not you, nor me, can tell them that was not the Holy Spirit when He was already in them by faith in Jesus Christ as promised.
I don't know if I've ever heard anyone actually teach you get filled with the Spirit by asking the Holy Spirit to fill you. For the most part, I think this is another straw man argument as far as I'm concerned. If you find someone who disgrees with you on that particular point.
What you are saying is of the same tree that is producing evil fruits. That methodology of focusing on the Holy Spirit is how anyone seeks to be filled by the Holy Spirit; and the fact that they are seeking to be filled by the Holy Spirit proves where their focus is when waiting to receive Him supernaturally in bringing tongues with no interpretation.
My neighbor across the street was sharing with me one day how she was reading the Bible at her kitchen table when the Holy Spirit came over her, bringing tongues. She went on to testify that moment was when she was saved because she got it all at once.
Is it any wonder why when believers that hear that, seek to receive the Holy Spirit in the same way and when they do, start preaching that if you do not speak in tongues, you do not have the Holy Spirit, and therefore you are not saved?
An evil fruit.
Then I had asked her what she was reading that led her to believe in Jesus Christ. She did not know what I had meant as she went on to explain that she went to her pastor to ask her about that incident and the pastor pointed to something in the Book of Acts. Then she told me that others in her church experienced the same thing doing other stuff, wherein she rolled her eyes at that thus impressing upon me what those other stuff was incredulous that led her to disbelieve their testimonies. And no, she did not care to share what they were doing at the time that the event happened.
So even here.. when believers are not seeking it actively when John warned us not to believe every spirit but test them and that test is about knowing that Jesus Christ is in you is how we know that the spirits coming over us later on in our lives as saved believers was not the Holy Spirit.
And you be remiss in not acknowledging how they do not stop there with receiving the Holy Spirit again with evidence of tongues as they seek to be filled supernaturally again and again and again after a sensational sign in the flesh.
Give an inch...you are giving every apostate movement of the spirit that YOU KNOW is not of Him, grounds to continue worse & worse & worse. Like the "holy laughter" movement where the spirit fall on them giving them uncontrollable laughter while causing some to fall down or slide down in their seats or whatever in confusion.
You also make unrighteous judgment. Apostacy is falling away from the faith. If you think Pentecostals are wrong about a second baptism, why is their idea apostacy and not all these ideas of yours that contradict the scriptures?
The second baptism with the Holy Ghost is DENYING Jesus Christ is in them in hypocrisy.
Does your pastor welcome you to church, and then although you are sitting in the pews in service, he stops, walks away from the pulpit and steps outside standing in the doorway, calling your name to come in for the service is about to start?
No. Then why do believers ask for the Holy Spirit to come when He is already in them BY FAITH in Jesus Christ?
Because they experienced something later on in life and just plain believed it as of God without testing the spirits by the scripture to see that it was not.
Wisdom comes from the Lord; so ditch those professors with college degrees. Jesus is your Good Shepherd. Not them.
1 John 2:[SUP]18 [/SUP]Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.[SUP]19 [/SUP]They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
[SUP]20 [/SUP]But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.[SUP]21 [/SUP]I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.............[SUP]26 [/SUP]These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.
[SUP]27 [/SUP]But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.[SUP]28 [/SUP]And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming.