As a teen I worked for KFC, and then a few years later for Mary Brown's, which was quite similar. One of the main differences between the two is that at KFC, we received the chickens already cut up and ready for breading, while at Mary Brown's, we received them whole, which necessitated further training in how to use a mounted circular saw without lopping off one of our arms
I believe it is a mistake for you to think that because Maxwel clarifies the logical outworkings of life origins that must necessarily follow devoid of God's plan, purposes, and design, that it translates into his not caring about people. In fact he took the time to make it so clear so you could not escape the bleak outlook that nihilism produces, the sheer pointlessness of it all. You care about others and treat those less fortunate than yourself with compassion and that is a wonderful thing, but clearly it is a perversion from an evolutionary point of view to waste personal resources on the weak and helpless. Nature makes sure to kill off those who cannot look after themselves first. That is what he is saying. Life without God is bereft of objective meaning, worth, purpose, and value. It is one grand cosmic accident. Furthermore, without the moral absolute of God, your morals are abstractly contrived. To point these things out does not mean they represent the beliefs we hold as ChristiansThe highest moral standard in God's universe is love.
You seem stubbornly adhered to your insistence to misunderstand. Why is it that you can overlook my saying that the highest moral standard in God's universe is love? You have claimed also to have read the Bible numerous times. Did it escape in you in those readings that Jesus proclaimed love of God and your fellows to be the greatest of all commands, fulfilling all the law and prophets? ALL. Please do not overlook that. Naturalism does not teach that selfless kind of love, but survival of the fittest.
And yet you deliberately pervert what I said! You act as if your naturalistic view is superior to Christianity when it has been plainly pointed out to you not to be because it underpins nihilism, but when we plainly point out the failings to you, you turn around and accuse us of holding the values your worldview promotes!
The funny thing is, when non believers come here to ask questions, without fail they take exceptions to the answers they get.
Thank you Tourist, that is very kind of you to say, and you are likewise seen to be a very caring person, spending much time welcoming new members to this site, and offering words of encouragement to people in distress over their life circumstances.
You come here to question us about our beliefs, but are irritated to no end when we likewise enquire after yours to get a better understanding of where you are coming from, so we can address what you actually think instead of making assumptions. Hmmm. There is something off in your approach and attitude, then. You may want to work on that Thank you Tourist, that is very kind of you to say, and you are likewise seen to be a very caring person, spending much time welcoming new members to this site, and offering words of encouragement to people in distress over their life circumstances.
Mr. Chicken Killer, just five days ago we had a non believer here promoting his views and asking questions, but when we asked him questions in return, he said, and this is a direct quote: I don't know why I feel I need to answer this, but it does irritate me to no end when people inquire about my beliefs. Especially when they're only concerned about proselytizing their own. I had simply asked him Where is your hope? In what or whom is it placed? Because he had specifically said he only had hope to sell. Here is my response to him.
Let me get this straight in my mind
I have repeatedly asked about your beliefs, mindset, feelings, and inclinations (as have others), so to turn around and erroneously accuse all of us of desiring only to promote/proselytize our own is blatantly false.
However, your objections will not change my mind or my reasons for believing, which you seem to have constantly overlooked.
Your contradictions notwithstanding, since you come here to challenge what we believe, you really ought not be irritated to no end that we present our beliefs to you when questioned, and steadfastly stand by them with the passion we feel for them and He Who has engendered them. Please tell me that you really did not think that your presentation of the lack of experience with and understanding of God that you possess, should be enough for us to throw over our wealth of experience and understanding of God.
If you would like to work out the meaning and purpose of life without
starting a holy war, you may wish to examine your methods
I know that you completely overlooked on more than one occasion the lengths that people have gone to explain something to you, and instead of accepting what is being presented as them caring enough about your questions to respond, you accuse the other of coming from a position of general lack of caring and of holding views that are at odds with Christianity itself. You know the views you project onto us are at odds with the Christian world view because you have presented yourself as someone who has studied the Bible extensively. We cannot fail to derive from this your sense of superiority while we attempt to show that any meaning you inject into your world view is not inherent to it. A naturalistic worldview holds no inherent meaning or purpose. To point this out to you does not mean we believe life to be without meaning or purpose. Surely the repeated efforts of us to get you to see that meaning and purpose originate from God should inform your intelligence that you are mistaken in your insistence on this point, especially when I specifically told you that the highest standard in God's universe is love, which fulfills ALL the law and ALL the prophets.
You have the right to your own personal beliefs however there are many people including celebrities who have great lives & are on the path to destruction. If you are content having your best life now that's your choice. However no one will escape Gods judgement. I wouldn't lump you in with atheist however there are people who believe since they don't believe in God they won't be judged by him. In which case they will be surprised on judgement day
The majority of the post was given to illustrate a response to another person who complained about being questioned in return. Your accusation that I have not given you a chance is blatantly false.
Yes you have erroneously accused more than one person of holding the views they merely try to clarify for your understanding. I could tell you what a Satanist believes but that does not mean I believe what they do, yet that is basically exactly what you did regarding the naturalistic worldview when shown to you what it logically promotes. My pointing out your error is not me being overly aggressive and insulting, I am simply pointing out your error.
You said you have read the Bible many times. My apologies for misstating your case.
