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Pumicestone, I am certainly not condemning you to hell fire, where on earth have I given you that idea?
What I had thought was that you might change what you stated as being sexy (in some sensual sense) that you might really have meant that you found it more attractive in more of a modest (lady like) sense (rather then the other).
I do not believe it is wrong to find someone handsome or beautiful in their outward appearance. I honestly thought the appearances of those womens suits did not scream sensual, or provoke of the sensual when setting the suits (which fully covered) against that which for the most part was more exposed.
Sort of like the difference between a dress worn on the red carpet in hollywood (as you noted) verses an Amish womans dress, one might be sensual (sexy) as well as outlandishly costly whereas the other be very simple, and practical, and doesnt seek anothers eye to itself. Or just doesnt have all the elements (in comparison) to provoke the sensual response in a man. It plays less to that effect (in otherwords)
Besides, I thought you believed those in the fully dress (bathing suits) were MORE sexy (in a sensual manner) in comparison to that which shows MORE skin and body, thats why I asked.
Like are you sure sexy (as in more sensual) in comparison to the first is what you mean or is it just that you find that more attractive because modesty appeals to you (in otherwords).
The second could be camels in drag? lol
Well, the first lot could be transsexuals in the same (you just never know these days)
What I had thought was that you might change what you stated as being sexy (in some sensual sense) that you might really have meant that you found it more attractive in more of a modest (lady like) sense (rather then the other).
I do not believe it is wrong to find someone handsome or beautiful in their outward appearance. I honestly thought the appearances of those womens suits did not scream sensual, or provoke of the sensual when setting the suits (which fully covered) against that which for the most part was more exposed.
Sort of like the difference between a dress worn on the red carpet in hollywood (as you noted) verses an Amish womans dress, one might be sensual (sexy) as well as outlandishly costly whereas the other be very simple, and practical, and doesnt seek anothers eye to itself. Or just doesnt have all the elements (in comparison) to provoke the sensual response in a man. It plays less to that effect (in otherwords)
Besides, I thought you believed those in the fully dress (bathing suits) were MORE sexy (in a sensual manner) in comparison to that which shows MORE skin and body, thats why I asked.
Like are you sure sexy (as in more sensual) in comparison to the first is what you mean or is it just that you find that more attractive because modesty appeals to you (in otherwords).
The second could be camels in drag? lol
Well, the first lot could be transsexuals in the same (you just never know these days)
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most Christian men struggle to avoid. Don't you mean, most Christian men do NOT Struggle to avoid it, but only repent of it after they willing do it?
There might have been a time, when True Christian men tried to avoid such things, but not with this generation, this generation would rather willingly do it, then merely repent every single time afterwards, and think all is well with their soul. Much weeping and gnashing is coming for this generation. But there is HOPE with Jesus Christ, seek His Strength and Power to overcome every temptation that comes upon you, so that you may LIVE, and not die.
He that sows to the flesh of the flesh shall reap corruption. Therefore when a person later on in life gets corruption in their flesh, let them not say "Why God, why do i have this disease/infection/maimed/lame/cancer in my body?" When all God is doing is staying True to His Word which can't be broken. If you sow to the flesh, you will reap corruption in that flesh, woe to this generation which sows to their flesh continually without ceasing, how will they escape the justice of God's Word? They won't.
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There might have been a time, when True Christian men tried to avoid such things, but not with this generation, this generation would rather willingly do it, then merely repent every single time afterwards, and think all is well with their soul. Much weeping and gnashing is coming for this generation. But there is HOPE with Jesus Christ, seek His Strength and Power to overcome every temptation that comes upon you, so that you may LIVE, and not die.
He that sows to the flesh of the flesh shall reap corruption. Therefore when a person later on in life gets corruption in their flesh, let them not say "Why God, why do i have this disease/infection/maimed/lame/cancer in my body?" When all God is doing is staying True to His Word which can't be broken. If you sow to the flesh, you will reap corruption in that flesh, woe to this generation which sows to their flesh continually without ceasing, how will they escape the justice of God's Word? They won't.
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People STOP judging other people!!!
When one person tells another what is immodest and what is not immodest, they are Judging. Who made you a Judge?
What is immodest for one person may not be immodest for another.
One man may look at a woman and lust and think how immodest she is being, another man looks at the same woman and does not lust at all and thinks she is dressed modestly.
Here is the Truth.
If what you are wearing, you THINK may cause others to lust, then what you are wearing IS Immodest. If you choose something to wear that you THINK will not cause others to lust after you, then that is dressed modestly.
Every person will stand before God and give account for their own actions. If you dress in such a way that might cause another person to stumble (lust) You will have to answer to God on Judgment Day, the reason why you dressed in such a way that MIGHT have caused others to stumble, and if it is selfish reasons, that will not bode well with you.
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When one person tells another what is immodest and what is not immodest, they are Judging. Who made you a Judge?
What is immodest for one person may not be immodest for another.
One man may look at a woman and lust and think how immodest she is being, another man looks at the same woman and does not lust at all and thinks she is dressed modestly.
Here is the Truth.
If what you are wearing, you THINK may cause others to lust, then what you are wearing IS Immodest. If you choose something to wear that you THINK will not cause others to lust after you, then that is dressed modestly.
Every person will stand before God and give account for their own actions. If you dress in such a way that might cause another person to stumble (lust) You will have to answer to God on Judgment Day, the reason why you dressed in such a way that MIGHT have caused others to stumble, and if it is selfish reasons, that will not bode well with you.
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In my opinion, bikinis CAN be immodest, but they don't HAVE to be. It all depends on how small they are, and the body type that they're covering. Also, what the heart attitude is of the woman who's wearing one.
My personal preferences are for one-piece swimsuits and tankinis, but I will say that some women can look good in bikinis also.
My personal preferences are for one-piece swimsuits and tankinis, but I will say that some women can look good in bikinis also.
Its common sense.... when I surf I wear a rashy n Boardies. Bikinis don't do too well in surf. But if I'm just hanging on the beach - does anyone expect me to cover up like in the 1920's. I'm neither ashamed n nor am I looking for a guy's attention - far from it. If I cover up its because I'm protecting myself from the sun.
lol well maybe u need to wear one of those things on your sunglasses where u can hang them around you neck. Look I think everyone looks at people walking past them unless you happen to be blind.
I think the thread though is a bit one sided focussing on what girls wear. I'm not crazy about guys pulling speedos into their backsides either so .... look I dunno about modesty...I just think its bad taste hahaha.
I think the thread though is a bit one sided focussing on what girls wear. I'm not crazy about guys pulling speedos into their backsides either so .... look I dunno about modesty...I just think its bad taste hahaha.
Judging by some of the threads in these forums it takes very little to create lust in a man, and I don't feel I should have to accept responsibility for that gender's weaknesses. If I wear bikini its because I like it, and I am not interested in a guy's attention..... I might add that some of the posts follow the same logic that women who are raped have to put up with.... the logic of...well what were you wearing...what time of night was it .
Clothing in our society is geared so that we can feel we look attractive. So yes the type of bikini you wear is worn because u want to look attractive even if its just for yourself. The idea of someone then lusting - well fine lust but its your issue - I know I am certainly NOT chasing someone's lust. Oh and the guys who pull their swimwear into their butts - If you think that creates lust in me - SO WRONG - theres no sunglasses dark enough for me when that happens.
Clothing in our society is geared so that we can feel we look attractive. So yes the type of bikini you wear is worn because u want to look attractive even if its just for yourself. The idea of someone then lusting - well fine lust but its your issue - I know I am certainly NOT chasing someone's lust. Oh and the guys who pull their swimwear into their butts - If you think that creates lust in me - SO WRONG - theres no sunglasses dark enough for me when that happens.
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Yes, that's true, but what I mean is don't choose to 'look intentionally', to take a second look, to lust over women at the beach. Sure, I notice people, but I've never really felt any desire to perv. Besides, when I go to the beach, I visit with friends and we don't go when there are plenty of people. I'm certainly not perfect though.
I would say they are immodest for they reveal too much skin,but a person can sin even if they are isolated on a mountain top,for to lust after a woman in their heart,would be a sin,but a bikini makes matters worse,and is not decent attire.
Gen 3:7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.
Gen 3:21 Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them.
Adam and Eve tried walking around skimpy,and God clothed them with animal skins.
Gen 3:7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.
Gen 3:21 Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins, and clothed them.
Adam and Eve tried walking around skimpy,and God clothed them with animal skins.
