If the wilderness Tabernacle was made in the pattern shown to Moses by God...

[disciplemike]

how significant is it that the foundation of the throne contained the ten commandments?
very interesting.

 

[Yahshua]

how significant is it that the foundation of the throne contained the ten commandments?
very interesting.

...With the first set of stone tablets fashioned by God himself from the sapphire stone (which is blue) taken from God's heavenly throne (Exodus 24:10-12) on which he writes his commandments. Perfection descending from heaven to man. The priests were also instructed to wear a ribbon of blue on the edges of their garments as a constant reminder to obey them.

So it's pretty significant. The commandment are literally the constitution of God's kingdom and the proof he has the absolute right to judge all beings.

Unfortunately, the 1st set of stone tablets was broken because of man's sin, but God saved/spared the people from judgment, so next God required a 2nd set of stones tablets be fashioned by the work of a man's *own* hands (Moses), and then given to God so he could rewrite his laws on them. It's this set of stone tablets that successfully made it into the earthly throne in the tabernacle that God eventually made his dwelling in.

There patterns here are undeniable.

The things that happened to Israel were for our example.

 

[gotime]

how significant is it that the foundation of the throne contained the ten commandments?
very interesting.

Very significant, As Hebrews speaks of Jesus going into the heavenly after his resurrection. And Revelation which is the Revelation of Jesus Christ takes place in the Holy and Most holy place.

 

[Grace777x70]

Of course the tabernacle would have all the commandments of God associated with them and they were all fulfilled by Christ Himself and we are in Him now. Did you notice that all these "law commandments" were all covered by the mercy seat and the blood of the Lamb was shed for them?

The law is holy and good but man cannot keep them which is why Christ came to die for us and now we who "believe" are in Christ now. Why do "law-keepers" continuously reject Christ when they are trying to get Christians to forsake Christ and to go back to the Law for living?

 

[Yonah]

Gen 26:5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.

Luk 1:6 And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.
I find it strange and confusing when people say nobody could obey the commands, that's simply not in the scriptures, think about it, would you command your child to do something you knew they could never do, and then appoint condemnation when they don't? I just don't get it.....

 

[Grace777x70]

Would giving away your wife to another man to have sex with her count as being "lawful"? This is exactly what Abraham did - twice. We have just been religiously programmed to think whenever we see "commandment" - we think of the Law only.

All men have sinned and sin is the transgression of the Law - so it's easy "to get".....if we don't think of commandments as only the "Law" given by Moses.

God dealt with Abraham through a covenant of grace - not the Law as given by Moses.

In Luke 1 - they were blameless because they kept the temple sacrifices.

Here is Paul talking about being blameless too as to his interpretation of the Law. Phil 3:2-9 ( Notice Paul deals with the dogs - the evil workers - those trying to get people to go back to the Law for living in verse 2-3 ..Paul calls them the false circumcision)

Philippians 3:6 (NASB)
[SUP]6 [/SUP] as to zeal, a persecutor of the church; as to the righteousness which is in the Law, found blameless.

And yet Paul said that he was the chief of sinners and a coveter.

Paul who knew the Law better then anyone had this to say about the purpose of the law.

The purpose of the law was :

1) To reveal our sinful state. Rom 3:20

2) To inflame sin Rom 7:8

3) To minister death in us Rom 7:10-11

4) To lead us to Christ Gal 3:24

The law is good, holy and spiritual but we are in the flesh. Jesus fulfilled all the law! When we read the law we should be seeing Jesus in it. Jesus did not save us so that we could go back to the law.

But the purpose of the law was not for righteousness or salvation at all, it was to manifest sin in our lives, so that the purpose of grace which is in Jesus is to manifest salvation. Grace does not set aside the law, but completely satisfied it

 

[Yahshua]

Would giving away your wife to another man to have sex with her count as being "lawful"? This is exactly what Abraham did - twice. We have just been religiously programmed to think whenever we see "commandment" - we think of the Law only.

All men have sinned and sin is the transgression of the Law - so it's easy "to get".....if we don't think of commandments as only the "Law" given by Moses.

God dealt with Abraham through a covenant of grace - not the Law as given by Moses.

In Luke 1 - they were blameless because they kept the temple sacrifices.

Here is Paul talking about being blameless too as to his interpretation of the Law. Phil 3:2-9 ( Notice Paul deals with the dogs - the evil workers - those trying to get people to go back to the Law for living in verse 2-3 ..Paul calls them the false circumcision)

Philippians 3:6 (NASB)
[SUP]6 [/SUP] as to zeal, a persecutor of the church; as to the righteousness which is in the Law, found blameless.

And yet Paul said that he was the chief of sinners and a coveter.

Paul who knew the Law better then anyone had this to say about the purpose of the law.

The purpose of the law was :

1) To reveal our sinful state. Rom 3:20

2) To inflame sin Rom 7:8

3) To minister death in us Rom 7:10-11

4) To lead us to Christ Gal 3:24

The law is good, holy and spiritual but we are in the flesh. Jesus fulfilled all the law! When we read the law we should be seeing Jesus in it. Jesus did not save us so that we could go back to the law.

But the purpose of the law was not for righteousness or salvation at all, it was to manifest sin in our lives, so that the purpose of grace which is in Jesus is to manifest salvation. Grace does not set aside the law, but completely satisfied it

But grace, anything God says out of his mouth IS law because his "words don't return to [him] void without accomplishing what they set out to do". That's rule. A law is a governing rule. "Man lives by every word out of God's mouth". To say man "can't keep" God's law is to say man can't live by every word out of his mouth. It contradicts the truth of scripture at its core, so there has to be another explanation.

It's not that man "can't" keep God's law ever, it’s that man "couldn’t" keep God’s law...*UNTIL AFTER* Christ. Now we who believe are freed so that we can do that through the power of Christ's love.

With respect, you're misunderstanding when Paul condemns folks who go back to the law. They were going back to following the instructions of taking animal sacrifices to the high priest to pay for their sins as a believer in christ...but those are two contradictory actions.

Animal sacrifices, post-christ, is a work of the law that nullifies belief in what Christ is doing in heaven. It was hard for them to quit the habit because they had been doing it all of their lives. They didn't understand animal sacrifice was just a foreshadowing of what Christ would do to forgive sins. But the commandments are always meant to be followed so that one doesn't fall into sin again after one is forgiven by Christ...we were even given Christ same holy Spirit that helped him resist sin in this same flesh of Adam that he had.

So with Christ in heaven as the true high priest, ministering with his blood, and his Holy Spirit in us guiding us to obey, the law (i.e. the cycle) of "sinning and (something) dying; sinning and dying; law-breaking and dying; law-breaking and dying" could finally be broken.

The purpose of ANY law in any society isn't for deliverance from a punishment either. The purpose of any law that's established by a government is

1) To show what a crime is, similar to Rom 3:20

2) To magnify it (like a magnifying glass) similar to Rom 7:8

3) To minister the punishment for crime, similar to Rom 7:10-11

4) To lead us to goodness in society, similar to Gal 3:24

But no law in society can *make* a person be a good person. No law in existence has the power to. The same goes for God's law.

But just because laws can't make a bad person be good doesn't mean those laws are tossed away as impossible or unnecessary to be followed. We're still expected to follow them in society. No, a person must be changed on the inside into a good person (independent from society's laws) and trained to follow those laws properly.

This is what Christ has done and is doing for we who want to be part of God’s society.

 

[mpaper345]

how significant is it that the foundation of the throne contained the ten commandments?
very interesting.

The ten commandments,which are moral laws,and laws of love,and any laws of that nature,go with the law of the New Testament,love works no ill towards their neighbor,therefore love is the fulfilling of the law,which if you love people perfectly,you would love God perfectly,which we can only love people perfectly by the Spirit,which if led by the Spirit you are right with God.

The ten commandments are the core foundation of the moral laws,laws of love,and covers the two greatest commandments,love God,and love people.

Paul said the law id spiritual,holy,just,and good,and we do not void out the law through faith,but we establish the law.

 

[FreeNChrist]

Paul said the law id spiritual,holy,just,and good,and we do not void out the law through faith,but we establish the law.

....and that we are not under it.

 

[Grace777x70]

But grace, anything God says out of his mouth IS law because his "words don't return to [him] void without accomplishing what they set out to do". That's rule. A law is a governing rule. "Man lives by every word out of God's mouth". To say man "can't keep" God's law is to say man can't live by every word out of his mouth. It contradicts the truth of scripture at its core, so there has to be another explanation.

It's not that man "can't" keep God's law ever, it’s that man "couldn’t" keep God’s law...*UNTIL AFTER* Christ. Now we who believe are freed so that we can do that through the power of Christ's love.

With respect, you're misunderstanding when Paul condemns folks who go back to the law. They were going back to following the instructions of taking animal sacrifices to the high priest to pay for their sins as a believer in christ...but those are two contradictory actions.

Animal sacrifices, post-christ, is a work of the law that nullifies belief in what Christ is doing in heaven. It was hard for them to quit the habit because they had been doing it all of their lives. They didn't understand animal sacrifice was just a foreshadowing of what Christ would do to forgive sins. But the commandments are always meant to be followed so that one doesn't fall into sin again after one is forgiven by Christ...we were even given Christ same holy Spirit that helped him resist sin in this same flesh of Adam that he had.

So with Christ in heaven as the true high priest, ministering with his blood, and his Holy Spirit in us guiding us to obey, the law (i.e. the cycle) of "sinning and (something) dying; sinning and dying; law-breaking and dying; law-breaking and dying" could finally be broken.

The purpose of ANY law in any society isn't for deliverance from a punishment either. The purpose of any law that's established by a government is

1) To show what a crime is, similar to Rom 3:20

2) To magnify it (like a magnifying glass) similar to Rom 7:8

3) To minister the punishment for crime, similar to Rom 7:10-11

4) To lead us to goodness in society, similar to Gal 3:24

But no law in society can *make* a person be a good person. No law in existence has the power to. The same goes for God's law.

But just because laws can't make a bad person be good doesn't mean those laws are tossed away as impossible or unnecessary to be followed. We're still expected to follow them in society. No, a person must be changed on the inside into a good person (independent from society's laws) and trained to follow those laws properly.

This is what Christ has done and is doing for we who want to be part of God’s society.

The whole purpose of the Law has been shown by Paul and it should bring us to Christ alone. Not so that we can go back to the Law again. That is anti-Christ belief. Paul said in the last days people would be "anti-Christ" NOT "anti-God".

The law was not made for the righteousness but the unrighteous. 1 Tim. 1:9 ( We are the righteous in Christ )

The Law of Moses is the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. We are to now eat of the tree of Life which is Christ Himself.

We do not follow Moses' Laws in the kingdom of Christ - we are in Him. His life is in us now and we can trust the Holy Spirit within us to guide us in life now. Romans 8:14

James says that it one breaks one law then they are guilty of the whole Law. You can pick and choose which ones you are going to live by. Either you pick the Law or you pick Christ.

The only "laws" that real Christians have today because we are "dead to the Law of Moses" are these below.

1) the law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus. - Romans 8:2

2) the law of love - Romans 13:8, 10 : Gal 5:14

3) the law of faith ( the Law is NOT of faith Gal. 3:12 ) - Romans 3:27 and Gal. 3:11, 23

4) the law of liberty in Christ Jesus - James 1:25; 2:12

5) the law of Christ - Himself - 1 Cor. 9:21 ; Gal. 6:2

We don't need to "obey" Lev. 18:23 to not have sex with animals now because the law of the spirit of Life in Christ Jesus will stop that within us. We can trust the Lord by the Spirit of God inside of us to lead us now that we are in Christ. Romans 8:14

Read the OT and Old Covenant to see Jesus in them and being all fulfilled by Him alone.

Our life in not in "laws of Moses". They were a shadow of the real thing which is Christ.

This is why Jesus often preached Moses 2.0 on steroids to reveal the truth nature of the Law - which can be seen in scriptures like .." You have heard it said - You shall not murder ..BUT "I" tell you if you have anger towards a person - you have murdered them".

To go back to live by the Law of Moses is committing spiritual adultery on our Lord Jesus because we have died to the Law SO THAT we could be joined to Another - Christ Himself as one spirit together in our inner man. We just need to have our minds renewed to the truth of the new creation in Christ now so that we can walk out what already is inside of us because of Christ.

We live now by the life of Christ Himself living in and through us which is why we are dead to the Law.

"For you have died and your life is hidden with Christ in God". Col. 3:3

 

[Yahshua]

The whole purpose of the Law has been shown by Paul and it should bring us to Christ alone. Not so that we can go back to the Law again. That is anti-Christ belief. Paul said in the last days people would be "anti-Christ" NOT "anti-God".

The law was not made for the righteousness but the unrighteous. 1 Tim. 1:9 ( We are the righteous in Christ )

The Law of Moses is the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. We are to now eat of the tree of Life which is Christ Himself.

We do not follow Moses' Laws in the kingdom of Christ - we are in Him. His life is in us now and we can trust the Holy Spirit within us to guide us in life now. Romans 8:14

James says that it one breaks one law then they are guilty of the whole Law. You can pick and choose which ones you are going to live by. Either you pick the Law or you pick Christ.

The only "laws" that real Christians have today because we are "dead to the Law of Moses" are these below.

1) the law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus. - Romans 8:2

2) the law of love - Romans 13:8, 10 : Gal 5:14

3) the law of faith ( the Law is NOT of faith Gal. 3:12 ) - Romans 3:27 and Gal. 3:11, 23

4) the law of liberty in Christ Jesus - James 1:25; 2:12

5) the law of Christ - Himself - 1 Cor. 9:21 ; Gal. 6:2

We don't need to "obey" Lev. 18:23 to not have sex with animals now because the law of the spirit of Life in Christ Jesus will stop that within us. We can trust the Lord by the Spirit of God inside of us to lead us now that we are in Christ. Romans 8:14

Read the OT and Old Covenant to see Jesus in them and being all fulfilled by Him alone.

Our life in not in "laws of Moses". They were a shadow of the real thing which is Christ.

This is why Jesus often preached Moses 2.0 on steroids to reveal the truth nature of the Law - which can be seen in scriptures like .." You have heard it said - You shall not murder ..BUT "I" tell you if you have anger towards a person - you have murdered them".

To go back to live by the Law of Moses is committing spiritual adultery on our Lord Jesus because we have died to the Law SO THAT we could be joined to Another - Christ Himself as one spirit together in our inner man. We just need to have our minds renewed to the truth of the new creation in Christ now so that we can walk out what already is inside of us because of Christ.

We live now by the life of Christ Himself living in and through us which is why we are dead to the Law.

"For you have died and your life is hidden with Christ in God". Col. 3:3

It's like a knee-jerk reaction almost to call law-keepers "anti-Christ"? You can' lump all the laws articulated by Paul together because you cause confusion. When Paul says "law" he's not always talking about the same law. So let's simplify it (although we can get even more specific if we need to), all of the things God told the levites to do were a placeholder and never meant to be the true ministration because they represented what Christ would do. It's those things ya don't wanna go back to. To go back to those things are indeed "anti-Christ". Not talking about going back to those things.

Ok, now that that's been established lets speak on the commandments, which are ALSO called "Law" but you know we mean the commandments:

"The law was made for the unrighteous". Exactly true. This is exactly what both yours and my list explaining the function of the law describes. Society's law shows what a crime is so to God's law shows was a sin is. But these laws are NOT Moses' laws but God's laws given through Moses.

The Holy Spirit was given on the same holy day as the laws written on the tables of stone. The Holy Spirit is the embodiment of those same laws. Those tables were a representation of the Holy Spirit. The difference between the tablets and The Holy Spirit is you can't place stone tablets in a person's heart; they're always on the outside of a person, never entering in. Thus the Holy Spirit is the fulfillment of God's promise in Jeremiah:

Jeremiah 31:33
For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the Lord: I will put my (GOD'S, NOT MOSES') law within them, and I will write it on their hearts. And I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

...and of Ezekiel

Ezekiel 36:27
And I will put my Spirit in you and move you to follow my decrees and be careful to keep my (GOD'S, NOT MOSES') laws.

These are the same laws, just made alive by the Spirit of God. They're not dead on a block of stone unable to affect a change. But I haven't pick which ones I want to follow and which ones I don't want to follow. God's law does that all on it's on because NOT every laws was for everyone. For instance,

There were laws for the priests which other people couldn't do. There were law for when one is in the promised land which can't be don't when someone is away. There are laws just meant to be placeholders until the proper person could come and do them correctly (like in the case of animal sacrifices & Christ's ministry). So there's no picking and choosing I'm guilty of when I follow the scriptures that says "the blood of bulls and goats can't take away sins", that means I don't do those.

1) the law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus IS the Holy Spirit who will take you back to Ezekiel 36:27

2) the law of love which will take you back to Ezekiel 36:27

3) the law of faith ( the Law is NOT of faith Gal. 3:12 ) is Justification. And once we are justified, we're taken back to Ezekiel 36:27

4) the law of liberty in Christ Jesus - is freedom; Justified. And once we are justified, we're taken back to Ezekiel 36:27

5) the law of Christ - Himself - saves us from the condemnation of the Law, so that now we can obey in love

But we are LITERALLY obeying the law to not have sex with animals because of the spirit in us. It makes no sense to say we don't have to obey. The fact that we don't want to means we automatically "are".

As to seeing Christ in the OT; that's exactly what I was getting at in my first post on this thread. Do you see Christ in the sapphire stones? Descending from heaven and being broken for man's sin?

Christ showed God's laws in their true form. To "go back" that Paul was referring to was to sacrifice for sin.

 

[jcha]

Jesus did not save us so that we could go back to the law.

1John 5:…2By this we know that we love the children of God: when we love God and keep His commandments. 3Forthis is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome,

Deuteronomy 3010if you obey the LORD your God to keep His commandments and His statutes which are written in this book of the law, if you turn to the LORD your God with all your hea and soul. 11"For this commandmentwhich I command you today is not too difficult for you, nor is it out of reach.

That's two witnesses, but both speak God's words.

Jesus railed the Saducees and Pharisees for ADDING LAWS that were not of God and for elevating their additions to be greater than God's commands.



Jesus did save us so that the Old Covenant could be written on our hearts. The only thing different about the New Covenant is founded on better PROMISES, AND not a change in the law. For example, the priesthood was TRANSFERRED to Jesus. The same priesthood that existed before the Levitical priesthood. The Law didn't change, only the administration changed.

Hebrews 5:10and was designated by God as high priest in the order of Melchizedek. 11We have much to say about this, but it is hard to explain, because you are dull of hearing. 12Although by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to reteach you the basic principles of God’s word. You need milk, not solid food!…

Twisting scriptures, some might say, so as to keep their man-made doctrine.

Isaiah 29:13
Then the Lord said, "Because this people draw near with their words And honor Me with their lip service, But they remove their hearts far from Me, And their reverence for Me consists of tradition learned by rote,

Matthew 15: 8 ‘These people honor Me with their lips, but their hearts are far from Me. 9They worship Me in vain; they teach as doctrine the precepts of men.’”

Mark 7:6Jesus answered them, “Isaiah prophesied correctly about you hypocrites, as it is written: ‘These people honor Me with their lips, but their hearts are far from Me. 7They worship Me in vain; they teach as doctrine the precepts of men.’ 8You have disregarded the commandment of God to keep the tradition of men.”…

Having the commandments written on your heart and thus, having a desire to follow God in the way that God asks is evidenced in your outward life.

Psalm 51:Create in Me a Clean Heart, O God
…11Do not cast me away from Your presence And do not take Your Holy Spirit from me. 12Restore to me the joy of Your salvation And sustain me with a willing spirit. 13Then I will teach transgressors Your ways, And sinners will be converted to You.

Ecclesiastes 12:…12But beyond this, my son, be warned: the writing of many books is endless, and excessive devotion to books is wearying to the body. 13The conclusion, when all has been heard, is: fear God and keep His commandments, because this applies to every person.14For God will bring every act to judgment, everything which is hidden, whether it is good or evil.

If Paul seems to be teaching lawlessness, then you are misunderstanding Paul's teachings.

 

[Grace777x70]

The law written on our heart is NOT the ten commandments - it is Christ Himself who is the fulfillment of the Law.

The Law Written on Our Hearts is not the Ten Commandments

“This is the covenant I will make with them after that time,” says the Lord. “I will put my laws in their hearts, and I will write them on their minds.” (Heb 10:16)

“This is obviously a reference to the law of Moses,” says the law-preacher. “The Ten Commandments were written in stone, now they’re written in the hearts and minds of God’s people.”

Not true. Here are seventeen reasons why God has not written the Ten Commandments on your heart:

1. The law inflames sin (Rom 5:20) and the strength of sin is the law (1 Cor 15:56). Why would God want to stir up sin in your life?

2. The law condemns (2 Cor 3:9), yet there is no condemnation to those in Christ.

3. The law ministers death (2 Cor 3:7), but God wants you to enjoy abundant life.

4. Law and grace don’t mix. You are under grace, not law (Rom 6:14).

5. Living by the law will alienate you from Christ (Gal 5:4).

6. Living by the law is cheating on Jesus (Rom 7). Why would God do anything to encourage spiritual adultery?

7. We’re to live by faith but the law is not of faith (Gal 3:12). The law encourages us to depend on ourselves instead of Jesus.

8. Those who live under the law are under a curse (Gal 3:10). Why would God curse those he has blessed?

9. The law binds and enslaves (Rom 7:6), but Jesus wants you free.

10. The law keeps you immature for it makes nothing perfect or complete (Heb 7:19).

11. We have died to the law so that we may serve in the new way of the Spirit and “not in the old way of the written code” (Rom 7:6).

12. When there has been a change of priesthood, the law must be changed also (Heb 7:12). For God to write the old law on our hearts would be like saying Aaron is greater than Jesus.

13. God found fault with the law-keeping covenant and made it obsolete (Heb 8:7,13). Why would God insult his Son’s sacrifice by giving you the very thing his sacrifice rendered obsolete?

14. The law is a shadow of the good things to come and not the reality (Heb 10:1). Why would God give you the shadow instead of “the good thing”?

15. The Jews considered the law to be ordained by angels (Heb 2:2). If so, says the author of Hebrews, then it is inferior to the gospel of Jesus (Heb 1:4). Why would God give you an inferior gift?

16. Some Christians think that God gives them the law as a guide to live by, but why would God want you to repeat the mistake of the Galatians (Gal 3:2)? Why would God do anything to make you fall from grace?

17. The old law-keeping covenant required an accounting or remembering of sin, but the new covenant is characterized by God forgiving and forgetting on account of Jesus (Heb 10:17). If the law that God writes in our hearts is the law of Moses, then Jesus died for nothing.

If God has written the Ten Commandments on your heart and mind, you should be able to list all ten with no trouble. Can you? What’s the seventh commandment? You can’t do it because it’s not there, and a very good thing that is too! If the law that God writes in our hearts is the law of Moses, you’re in big trouble.

The good news is that God has written in us a far better law. What is this new and better law?

https://escapetoreality.org/2015/04/17/law-in-hearts-ten-commandments/

 

[Grace777x70]

Now this post is the good one as it shows that it is Jesus Himself that is written on our hearts and He is elevated far above the Law. This is the reason we are "dead to the Law" SO THAT we would be joined to Another - Christ Himself.

What is the Law Written on Our Hearts?

Six-hundred years before Jesus came, the prophet Jeremiah spoke of a new covenant that God would make with his people:
“This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel after that time,” declares the Lord. “I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people. No longer will they teach their neighbor, or say to one another, ‘Know the Lord,’ because they will all know me, from the least of them to the greatest.” (Jer 31:33-34)

What is the law that God writes on our hearts and minds? Here are three things it is not:

• It is not the law of Moses. As we saw in the last post, if God wrote the Ten Commandments on our hearts then Jesus died for nothing.

• It is not a new and improved version of the law. It is not the new commands of Jesus or the New Testament. We cannot please God by keeping a new law any more than we could please him by keeping an old one.

• It is not the knowledge of right and wrong that was bestowed upon us – against the Lord’s wishes – by Adam.

So what is this law that the Lord writes on our hearts and minds and embeds in our very being?

It is Himself.

Let’s look at three things the New Testament says about the new law in our hearts.

1. The law of love

A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. (John 13:34)

Under the old law covenant, love was demanded from you. “Love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, mind and strength.” But under the new covenant of grace, love is given to you – “As I have loved you” – and out of the overflow of Christ’s measureless love we are able to love others.

How does it happen?

God’s love has been poured out into our hearts through the Holy Spirit, who has been given to us. (Rom 5:5)

God abundantly pours his love into our hearts by giving us the Holy Spirit, a.k.a. the Spirit of Christ. Do you see the difference between the old and new?

• Under the old, the law was a rule for weak men to obey. Under the new, the Law is the Spirit of Christ given to us, loving us, and loving others through us.

• Under the old, you loved others because you feared punishment. But under the new, you love because a Lover lives in you and it is his nature to love.

• Under the old, you had to make an effort to obey. But under the new you have to make an effort to disobey. It’s a whole new way of life.

2. The law of the Spirit of life

It’s important that you understand the difference between the old law (a written code you can’t keep) and the new Law (Christ himself, living in you).

Try and live by the old laws, as Paul did, and it make you miserable:

What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body that is subject to death? (Rom 7:24)

Paul couldn’t keep the old law no matter how hard he tried. He needed a new law and that new law is a Who:

Who will rescue me…? Thanks be to God, who delivers me through Jesus Christ our Lord. (Rom 7:24-25a)

Do you see? The old law is a what; the new law is a Who. The old law ministers condemnation and death (2 Cor 3:7-9), but the new “law of the Spirit gives life” (Rom 8:2).

For the letter kills, but the Spirit gives life. (2 Cor 3:6)

Who gives life? Not a set of rules, but the Spirit of Christ within you. The new law is a Who.

3. The perfect law of liberty

James wrote of “the perfect law that gives freedom” (Jas 1:25), which can be contrasted with the law of Moses that binds (Rom 7:6). What is the perfect law that gives freedom? Well, what is the implanted word that can save you (Jas 1:21)? It’s not the Ten Commandments or the Bible. It’s Jesus, the living Word who sets us free.

The perfect law of liberty describes what Jesus has done (perfectly fulfilled or completed the law) and the fruit he will bear in our lives (liberty) if we trust him.

But whoever looks intently into the perfect law that gives freedom, and continues in it – not forgetting what they have heard, but doing it – they will be blessed in what they do. (Jas 1:25)

Look into the mirror of Moses’ law and you will be miserable, for it exposes all your faults. But look into the perfect law which is Jesus and you will be blessed, for it reveals His righteousness.

“Don’t just listen but do what it (the perfect law of liberty) says” (Jas 1:22). In other words, allow the Spirit of Christ to convince you that in him you are righteous and holy. Don’t walk away from the perfect law and forget who you are in Christ. Fix your eyes on Jesus. Look intently with an unveiled face and be transformed into his likeness.

The Law written in our hearts is Jesus

Jeremiah said those who had the new law written on their hearts would know the Lord and would no longer need others to teach them. This is describing your union with Christ. One with the Lord you have the mind of Christ (1 Cor 2:16). His Spirit dwells in you and teaches you all things (John 14:26).





The law of the Lord written into your members is your Father’s spiritual DNA. It is the seed of God birthed in you by the Holy Spirit. It’s Jesus himself.

How do you know He’s there? Because you are a new creation with new hopes and desires. You no longer want to sin. Your desire is to love God and others and that desire has nothing to do with old rules written in stone.

Christian, you are who you are because Christ lives in you. He is the new law written, by God, in your heart and mind.

https://escapetoreality.org/2015/04/23/what-is-the-law-written-on-our-hearts/

 

[resurrection33]

how significant is it that the foundation of the throne contained the ten commandments?
very interesting.

I'm not in the mood to get into an endless argument about the importance of the Lord's commandments, but I think the foundation of our spiritual lives includes obedience to the Lord's commandments.

 

[PaulMack]

Its not about the Laws that are in question, its where your Heart is that is in question. Are you keeping the Laws because you believe its mandatory for entrance into Heaven? Or are you keeping the Laws because you Love Jesus?

 

[disciplemike]

The law written on our heart is NOT the ten commandments - it is Christ Himself who is the fulfillment of the Law.

The Law Written on Our Hearts is not the Ten Commandments

“This is the covenant I will make with them after that time,” says the Lord. “I will put my laws in their hearts, and I will write them on their minds.” (Heb 10:16)

“This is obviously a reference to the law of Moses,” says the law-preacher. “The Ten Commandments were written in stone, now they’re written in the hearts and minds of God’s people.”

Not true. Here are seventeen reasons why God has not written the Ten Commandments on your heart:

1. The law inflames sin (Rom 5:20) and the strength of sin is the law (1 Cor 15:56). Why would God want to stir up sin in your life?

2. The law condemns (2 Cor 3:9), yet there is no condemnation to those in Christ.

3. The law ministers death (2 Cor 3:7), but God wants you to enjoy abundant life.

4. Law and grace don’t mix. You are under grace, not law (Rom 6:14).

5. Living by the law will alienate you from Christ (Gal 5:4).

6. Living by the law is cheating on Jesus (Rom 7). Why would God do anything to encourage spiritual adultery?

7. We’re to live by faith but the law is not of faith (Gal 3:12). The law encourages us to depend on ourselves instead of Jesus.

8. Those who live under the law are under a curse (Gal 3:10). Why would God curse those he has blessed?

9. The law binds and enslaves (Rom 7:6), but Jesus wants you free.

10. The law keeps you immature for it makes nothing perfect or complete (Heb 7:19).

11. We have died to the law so that we may serve in the new way of the Spirit and “not in the old way of the written code” (Rom 7:6).

12. When there has been a change of priesthood, the law must be changed also (Heb 7:12). For God to write the old law on our hearts would be like saying Aaron is greater than Jesus.

13. God found fault with the law-keeping covenant and made it obsolete (Heb 8:7,13). Why would God insult his Son’s sacrifice by giving you the very thing his sacrifice rendered obsolete?

14. The law is a shadow of the good things to come and not the reality (Heb 10:1). Why would God give you the shadow instead of “the good thing”?

15. The Jews considered the law to be ordained by angels (Heb 2:2). If so, says the author of Hebrews, then it is inferior to the gospel of Jesus (Heb 1:4). Why would God give you an inferior gift?

16. Some Christians think that God gives them the law as a guide to live by, but why would God want you to repeat the mistake of the Galatians (Gal 3:2)? Why would God do anything to make you fall from grace?

17. The old law-keeping covenant required an accounting or remembering of sin, but the new covenant is characterized by God forgiving and forgetting on account of Jesus (Heb 10:17). If the law that God writes in our hearts is the law of Moses, then Jesus died for nothing.

If God has written the Ten Commandments on your heart and mind, you should be able to list all ten with no trouble. Can you? What’s the seventh commandment? You can’t do it because it’s not there, and a very good thing that is too! If the law that God writes in our hearts is the law of Moses, you’re in big trouble.

The good news is that God has written in us a far better law. What is this new and better law?

https://escapetoreality.org/2015/04/17/law-in-hearts-ten-commandments/

I can tell when you are confused. Your copy/pastes get longer and looooonnnngggeer.

 

[disciplemike]

....and that we are not under it.

I think you are probably right. you are not under good, just, & holy. you said it. not me.

 

[jcha]

It’s important that you understand the difference between the old law (a written code you can’t keep) and the new Law (Christ himself, living in you).

1 John 5:…2By this we know that we love the children of God: when we love God and keep His commandments.3Forthis is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome,

Deuteronomy 3010if you obey the LORD your God to keep His commandments and His statutes which are written in this book of the law, if you turn to the LORD your God with all your hea and soul. 11"For this commandmentwhich I command you today is not too difficult for you, nor is it out of reach.

That's two witnesses, but both speak God's words.

Jesus railed the Saducees and Pharisees for ADDING LAWS that were not of God and for elevating their additions to be greater than God's commands.

If Jesus changed the law, then He would not be sinless. If your Jesus did away with that which was perfect, then what you are following is not the true Messiah.

Romans 2:13 For it isnotthehearersof the Lawwho are righteousbeforeGod,but it is the doers of the Law who will be declared righteous.
Matthew 11:…29Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me; for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30For My yoke is easy and My burden islight.”

Matthew 23:1Then Jesus spoke to the crowds and to His disciples:2“The scribes and Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. 3So practice and observe everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.…

Jesus did save us so that the Old Covenant could be written on our hearts. The only thing different about the New Covenant is founded on better PROMISES, AND not a change in the law. For example, the priesthood was TRANSFERRED to Jesus. The same priesthood that existed before the Levitical priesthood. The Law didn't change, only the administration changed.

Hebrews 5:10and was designated by God as high priest in the order of Melchizedek. 11We have much to say aboutthis, but it is hard to explain, because you are dull of hearing. 12Although by this time you ought to be teachers, you need someone to reteach you the basic principles of God’s word. You need milk, not solid food!…

Twisting scriptures, some might say, so as to keep their man-made doctrine.

Isaiah 29:13
Then the Lord said, "Because this people draw near with their words And honor Me with their lip service, But they remove their hearts far from Me, And their reverence for Me consists of tradition learned by rote,

Matthew 15: 8 ‘These people honor Me with their lips, but their hearts are far from Me. 9They worship Me in vain; they teach as doctrine the precepts of men.’”

Mark 7:6Jesus answered them, “Isaiah prophesied correctly about you hypocrites, as it is written: ‘These people honor Me with their lips, but their hearts are far from Me. 7They worship Me in vain; they teach as doctrine the preceptsof men.’ 8You have disregarded the commandment of God to keep the tradition of men.”…

Having the commandments written on your heart and thus, having a desire to follow God in the way that God asks is evidenced in your outward life.

Psalm 51:Create in Me a Clean Heart, O God
…11Do not cast me away from Your presence And do not take Your Holy Spirit from me. 12Restore to me the joy of Your salvation And sustain me with a willing spirit. 13Then I will teach transgressors Your ways, And sinners will be converted to You.

Ecclesiastes 12:…12But beyond this, my son, be warned: the writing of many books is endless, and excessive devotion to books is wearying to the body. 13The conclusion, when all has been heard, is: fear God and keep His commandments, because this applies to every person.14For God will bring every act to judgment, everything which is hidden, whether it is good or evil.

If Paul seems to be teaching lawlessness, then you are misunderstanding Paul's teachings.

 

[Grace777x70]

Galatians 2:16 (NASB)
[SUP]16 [/SUP] nevertheless knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, so that we may be justified by faith in Christ and not by the works of the Law; since by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified.


John tells us exactly what God's commandments are in the "New Covenant" and His commandments are not burdensome!

1 John 3:22-23 (NASB)
[SUP]22 [/SUP] and whatever we ask we receive from Him, because we keep His commandments and do the things that are pleasing in His sight.

[SUP]23 [/SUP] This is His commandment, that we believe in the name of His Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, just as He commanded us.

God's commandments in the New Covenant are to believe in the name of His Son Jesus Christ and to love one another. This means to believe in everything that the Lord Jesus did for us in His finished work.

The Old Covenant is now obsolete and is now gone ( Hebrews 8:13 ) - the last temple sacrifices stopped in 70 AD when Titus came in and destroyed the city of Jerusalem.

We now live by the life of Christ in us and not in the oldness of the letter. People are not going to commit spiritual adultery on the Lord Jesus by going back to the law for living. His life by the Holy Spirit being manifested in and through us is how the true Christian lives now.