If you read that whole thread that was given - you will see all this was answered.
There have been many people that "have fallen away" from the Lord and yet they have come back to the Lord so this scripture would be null and void as it says - it is impossible to renew them again to repentance once they have fallen away....and yet they have come back to the Lord.
Here is a video that might help you in this.
[video=youtube;ymCgHPu7Nz4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymCgHPu7Nz4[/video]
I watched it and I don't agree with him.
I read this verses from a series of traslations and I have come to some ideas:
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[FONT="]For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,[/FONT][FONT="]5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,[/FONT]
[FONT="]6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame."(KJV)
2) "4 For in the case of those who have once been enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and have been made partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 and then have fallen away, it is impossible to renew them again to repentance, [d]since they again crucify to themselves the Son of God and put Him to open shame. (NASB).
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[TD="class: v en"]"As for those who at one time saw the light, tasting the good things from heaven, and having their part in the Holy Spirit,[/TD]
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[TD="class: v en"]With knowledge of the good word of God, and of the powers of the coming time,[/TD]
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And then let themselves be turned away, it is not possible for their hearts to be made new a second time;
because they themselves put the Son of God on the cross again, openly shaming him." (Bible in Basic English)
4) and in my Bible the verse 6 says like this: "it is with incapability/infirmity to be renewed, and brought up to repentence".
The main ideas are extracted from 'it is impossible...to renew them again unto repentence' and 'it is not possible for their
hearts to be made new a second time' which means if they, once they have met the Great LOVE of God through Christ, have
left the true teachings it is kinda hard to make them repent AGAIN, like the chances are low, and they may seem a lost cause.
So here it doesn't say it's impossible, and no one who has fallen can not and didn't come back to Christ,
but it's harder to come back after the quiting. 'To renew them unto repentence' here the accent falls on 'unto repentence',
because they already been there, it's harder to come back to God, from zero. Look at the translation from
my Bible= brought up=induce; To cause to occur as a consequence. So it's harder for some external forces to do anything more.
Then 'they themselves put the son of God on the cross again', 'seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh',
but this sentences cannot be taken on one's own without ' AND put Him to open shame' or ', openly shaming Him'.
So they 'trashed' the cross of Jesus, and put Him at shame because they once in the eyes of man accepted Him,
then abanonded Him, So people would be influenced in a negative way, even if that man repented and come back.
We should be lights and candles in the eyes of man.
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[TD="class: v en"]But will not the man by whom the Son of God has been crushed under foot, and the blood of the agreement with
which he was washed clean has been taken as an unholy thing, and who has had no respect for the Spirit of grace,
be judged bad enough for a very much worse punishment?" (Bible in Basic English)
"[FONT="]Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden
under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified,
an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?"(KJV)
I think this(this punishment) is for people that remain in that state as fallen.
It's a little hard to digest this passages. I'll study more:
But still you can lose your wayther verses from Hebrews 10 :38-39:
1)"[/FONT] [FONT="]Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him.[/FONT][FONT="]39 But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving
of the soul." (KJV)
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[TD="class: v en"]"But the upright man will be living by his faith; and if he goes back, my soul will have no pleasure in him.[/TD]
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[TD="class: v en"]But we are not of those who go back to destruction; but of those who have faith even to the salvation of the soul."[/TD]
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I keep discovering verses that sustain the idea of losing your way.
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[TD="class: v en"]But we are not of those who go back to destruction; but of those who have faith even to the salvation of the soul.[/TD]
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