Donald Trump's "Evangelical" Sellouts

[RachelBibleStudent]

Would you mind linking us up with that second interview?

Dr. James Dobson: Do I Know for Sure Donald Trump Is Saved? No — Charisma News

 

[WarriorForChrist]

It sounds like a ton of gossip to me. I think the bible says something about this as well

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

So let's go and refute Dobsons hearsay with more hearsay? Sounds logical. In defense of Paula, she did marry the keyboard player from journey...so I bet they have a stellar worship team.

there you go 'opinionizing' everything again...

i did not 'refute dobson's hearsay with more hearsay'...what i did was to present the -fact- that dobson has essentially retracted the certainty of his initial statement and named hearsay as his original source...

this is not refuting hearsay with hearsay...this is pointing out that the dobson's 'evidence' consists entirely of hearsay and has been admitted as such...

 

[Mitspa]

It sounds like a ton of gossip to me. I think the bible says something about this as well

These so-called nevertrump Christian conservatives ..use the bible when and how it suites them ..most of them only know about three scriptures and they use those out of context ...westboro Baptist types Sad people really

 

[Sirk]

there you go 'opinionizing' everything again...

i did not 'refute dobson's hearsay with more hearsay'...what i did was to present the -fact- that dobson has essentially retracted the certainty of his initial statement and named hearsay as his original source...

this is not refuting hearsay with hearsay...this is pointing out that the dobson's 'evidence' consists entirely of hearsay and has been admitted as such...

Flag on the play...twenty five yard penalty....repeat 4th down. Of course what you posted was hearsay as much what you accuse dobson of having....and honestly, I never got "certainty" of ANYTHING out of Dobsons initial statement..... I'm really not sure how you did either. I think we discovered the problem.....Rachel only hears what she wants to hear.....to the penalty box with you....oh wait, we were playing football...nevermind.

 

[Rosesrock]

Flag on the play...twenty five yard penalty....repeat 4th down. Of course what you posted was hearsay as much what you accuse dobson of having....and honestly, I never got "certainty" of ANYTHING out of Dobsons initial statement..... I'm really not sure how you did either. I think we discovered the problem.....Rachel only hears what she wants to hear.....to the penalty box with you....oh wait, we were playing football...nevermind.

Is that benched? How about red card?

 

[Sirk]

Is that benched? How about red card?

I know nothing about curling.....do they do that in Rio....I hear its hot down there....and lots of mosquitos.

 

[Rosesrock]

I know nothing about curling.....do they do that in Rio....I hear its hot down there....and lots of mosquitos.

Curling ?? Like with an iron?

 

[Sirk]

Curling ?? Like with an iron?

No you silly goose....the ice thing...where they got brooms and they make this little kettle ball looking thing go as far as they can before it hits the red line.

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

These so-called nevertrump Christian conservatives ..use the bible when and how it suites them ..most of them only know about three scriptures and they use those out of context ...westboro Baptist types Sad people really

right...anyone who isn't pro pornography like you are must be a 'westboro baptist type'...

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

Flag on the play...twenty five yard penalty....repeat 4th down. Of course what you posted was hearsay as much what you accuse dobson of having....and honestly, I never got "certainty" of ANYTHING out of Dobsons initial statement..... I'm really not sure how you did either. I think we discovered the problem.....Rachel only hears what she wants to hear.....to the penalty box with you....oh wait, we were playing football...nevermind.

are you really this incapable of having a rational discussion? or is this you being dishonest again?

what i did was post dobson's 'walkback' of his original statement...this is not refuting hearsay with hearsay but exposing a piece of 'evidence' cited as hearsay...

 

[Mitspa]

right...anyone who isn't pro pornography like you are must be a 'westboro baptist type'...

Is that one of your three scriptures and lets hear how it applies ...go ahead take scripture out of context to suite your own purpose.. Then go hold up a sign on the side of the road.

 

[Rosesrock]

No you silly goose....the ice thing...where they got brooms and they make this little kettle ball looking thing go as far as they can before it hits the red line.

Oh gotcha. Those people with the cool shorts. Ok sane page.

 

[Sirk]

are you really this incapable of having a rational discussion? or is this you being dishonest again?

what i did was post dobson's 'walkback' of his original statement...this is not refuting hearsay with hearsay but exposing a piece of 'evidence' cited as hearsay...

Swing and a miss.....what is this strike 2.....I'm giving you the bunt sign. Go back and listed to what Dobson said initially. He never said that Donald Trump got down on his knees and prayed the sinners prayer and weeped tears of repentance and he saw it with his own two eyes..... and apparently, even his clarification didn't work on the people who had it in their head he said that before he even uttered a word about it. I fail to see walking balk anything.....if anything you should just walk back to the dugout so you don't keep embarrassing yourself.

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

Is that one of your three scriptures and lets hear how it applies ...go ahead take scripture out of context to suite your own purpose.. Then go hold up a sign on the side of the road.

anyone who knows me knows that i have posted -far- more than just 'three scriptures'...

in any case i think three scriptures is more than donald trump has been able to quote correctly to date...be careful what measure you use because it will be used against you...

and it is a typical left wing immoralist anti christian tactic to accuse anyone who quotes scripture in support of basic morality as 'taking scripture out of context'...for that matter it is a typical left wing immoralist anti christian tactic to compare anyone who supports biblical morality with the westboro baptists...

 

[Sirk]

anyone who knows me knows that i have posted -far- more than just 'three scriptures'...

in any case i think three scriptures is more than donald trump has been able to quote correctly to date...be careful what measure you use because it will be used against you...

and it is a typical left wing immoralist anti christian tactic to accuse anyone who quotes scripture in support of basic morality as 'taking scripture out of context'...for that matter it is a typical left wing immoralist anti christian tactic to compare anyone who supports biblical morality with the westboro baptists...

Geez...what the heck. How do you expect a baby Christian to have a whole bunch of passages memorized over night. You're hard on baby Christians.

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

Swing and a miss.....what is this strike 2.....I'm giving you the bunt sign. Go back and listed to what Dobson said initially. He never said that Donald Trump got down on his knees and prayed the sinners prayer and weeped tears of repentance and he saw it with his own two eyes..... and apparently, even his clarification didn't work on the people who had it in their head he said that before he even uttered a word about it. I fail to see walking balk anything.....if anything you should just walk back to the dugout so you don't keep embarrassing yourself.

first i would like to point out that you had no more to say against my argument that i was -not- refuting 'hearsay with hearsay' but merely reporting on a 'clarification' of the initial hearsay based assertion...

i will take that as a 'hit'...

next...here are actual quotations from dobson's original interview so you can't distort the record...

"He did accept a relationship with Christ."
"He's a baby Christian, if you will."

these statements from dobson's initial interview are not 'maybes'...he is clearly stating his hearsay based wishful thinking as fact...

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

Geez...what the heck. How do you expect a baby Christian to have a whole bunch of passages memorized over night. You're hard on baby Christians.

trump himself claimed to already be a christian back in 2011...if trump was not simply -lying- then i would expect him to have more than three passages memorized in five years...

 

[Sirk]

first i would like to point out that you had no more to say against my argument that i was -not- refuting 'hearsay with hearsay' but merely reporting on a 'clarification' of the initial hearsay based assertion...

i will take that as a 'hit'...

next...here are actual quotations from dobson's original interview so you can't distort the record...

"He did accept a relationship with Christ."
"He's a baby Christian, if you will."

these statements from dobson's initial interview are not 'maybes'...he is clearly stating his hearsay based wishful thinking as fact...

This is what I saw....believe being the operative word. “I believe he really made a commitment, but he’s a baby Christian.”

So it is obvious that Dobson either A) was lying in his first statement or B) lying in his second statement. What I believe is that he misspoke and he clarified that he misspoke and that he didn't know.....because he said two different things in the initial and I tend to believe he wasn't lying when he said option b)
And this is really only an issue because people like to split hairs when they are grinding their axes. So what if he did and so what if he didn't...it's none of your business anyway and I think Dobson is a good man that you're dragging thru the mud along with the pitchfork and torch crowd.

 

[Utah]

...and the same accusation of 'hate'...still with zero evidence provided

repeating a false accusation over and over is not going to make it true...

(removed please do not make thread personal) You're either delusional to your own ungodliness or, what I suspect, deliberately deceitful in trying to hide the obvious. In any case, God will not be mocked. You've been thoroughly warned once again.