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Honestly speaking, I've actually thought about this before. It seems the attack arise from ignorance of truth. Jesus have rightly said this " You shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free.
At the beginning I was like everyone else, disbelief. Let me tell you another shockng news...... US will became a muslim country when the end is coming.
If your wondering is present, because their own brotherhood has against them. They found refuge in US.
If your wondering is future, then I believe they come to make you all muslim. Beware.
What's a Christian smell like?
I think I will answer you this on Tin Tin's behalf.... A Christian should smell like a saint. Its fragrance should be able to intoxicate non-believers in knowing Jesus Christ
It occurred to me as I read this: it seems to me that the phrase, "Islam is a religion of peace" is actually a subterfuge, a fallacy of equivocation. The word "Islam" literally means, "submission". If Moslems actually believe, according to the Qu'ran, that peace will come about by the imposition of shari'a and the submission of all peoples to Moslem rule, then in that sense (alone), they are correct.
Mis-conception about muslim religion. Kindly read my thread on Jesus Christ vs prophet Mohammad. Not only Christianity preach peace, muslims, buddist and hinduism also does that
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PeacefulWarrior
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Your point was that you agree with the material but not the delivery method...
I read parts of this thread and not sure where to put this. but here is a muslim woman speaking.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7OYRknGgEc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7OYRknGgEc
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HisHolly
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The korans view on treatment of woman, like much of its stances on so many things, contradicts itself numerous times.I have formed a lay persons opinion that the religion and its book are originated from a evil source.
One thing I don't understand is how they murder anyone depicting their prophet. What if an accomplished artist had drawn Mohammed (spelling?-forgive me) to be a handsome man full of integrity such as the rendition of Jesus Christ from the Shroud of Turin? Why would you up and murder someone who would be trying to pay you a compliment?
The fact that Jews have the biggest problem with the Islamic religion should be a red flag to any Christian to begin with, but... yeah idk. Touchy subject. There are most likely culturally Arab individuals who call themselves Muslim who worship the Truth, and speak it under duress more than some culturally Jewish people. The Lord IS the Truth (whenever spoken) I just wish they would take comfort in the fact that salvation comes from the Jews, and therefor they are judged first. Idk. *Shrug*
This reply is just too cute!
Is this not the objective??!
Oh, and BTW, do muslims follow Allah or do they follow Muhammad and all those rules and regulations he set up - the most important one being to kill the infidels...
of which all we Christians are one.
Not all muslims would kill or are extreme, but all would like to see us disappear.
They are "allowed"?
Isn't that nice.
WHO is allowing them?
That is who rules over them.
You know, the media talks about radical Islam. I bet you only a small minority have read the Koran, which is actually a trilogy of books: the Koran, the Sira, and the Hadith.
If they did, they would take not that nowhere does it say jihad, killing of kafirs, dhimmis, and world domination is radical. If ot says it, I missed it, and i have read a good portion of the Koran, and 5 books about it.
American liberal media decided to call it a peace loving religion, and to tag the Isis's and Al Queada's radical, but in reality, that is pure BS. THE KORAN CALLS EVERY SINGLE ABLE BODIED MUSLIM TO CONTRIBUTE IN JIHAD IN SOME WAY OR FORM. To never rest until THE WHOLE WORLD is either Islam, or slaves of Islam. And slave is the correct word, because the way the Koran reads, if your not a Muslim, your contemptible, lower then a dog, and not worthy of respect. You lose almost all common human and basic rights in their view of how a Islam society should be conducted.
The very word Islam means submission or surrender. To their Allah. If you don't, you can be killed by a Muslim and he will be rewarded for it by their Allah.
It is not radical, it's the normal for their religion.
As far as peace loving, if ones definition of peace is a 1400 year history (called the tears of jihad) of slaughtering 270 MILLION people for the cause of world wide domination peaceful, well the, ex President Bush, current president Obama, Hillary Clinton, and all you liberal newspapers, TV outlets, and college professors, your either supremely ignorant, or outright liars.
Mohammad preached peacefully in Mecca the first 13 years after his vision in a cave from the angel of Allah. And he made 100 converts, mostly family and friends.
Then he went to Medina, and converted his religious message into a political and legal message, He then began to preach violence. In the next 27 years, until he dies, by the edge of the sword, he made 150,000 converts.
If Mohammad had stayed the course of peaceful conversion, Islam would have died out after he died, because it probably would have had not more then maybe 300 converts.
The soft head liberal Americans (sometimes knowledge puffs up, and the educated get more stupid then smart, especially if you don't have God) may yearn to bend over backwards to be politically correct, to paint the Muslims as victims, to teach apologetics in our schools about the poor, poor Muslims, and how the evil white men enslaved Africans (which I am not of course defending, just trying to make a point here- btw, Muslims have enslaved more people then any religious group in the world, probably more then all of them put together, according to available records) and how dare we speak badly about Islam, because you want to ease your depraved guilty conscience, and want everyone else to comply to your twisted world view, but I am not going down that misguided path for a second.
So lets be real, they are not radical, they are just putting the words into action, unlike most of them. Not because most of the the others don't believe its wrong, but because they have something in common with many of us Christians, they are lukewarm, and they are not putting their beliefs and faith into action.
But don't doubt even for a minute that those that act are more radical then those that don't. Most Muslims believe the same "radical" blueprint.
If they didn't, then they are not really Muslims. If they are in the mood to be honest, and not use the excuse of all the duality in their book, they will admit that themselves. Its like saying I'm a Christian but I don't believe in Jesus.
If they did, they would take not that nowhere does it say jihad, killing of kafirs, dhimmis, and world domination is radical. If ot says it, I missed it, and i have read a good portion of the Koran, and 5 books about it.
American liberal media decided to call it a peace loving religion, and to tag the Isis's and Al Queada's radical, but in reality, that is pure BS. THE KORAN CALLS EVERY SINGLE ABLE BODIED MUSLIM TO CONTRIBUTE IN JIHAD IN SOME WAY OR FORM. To never rest until THE WHOLE WORLD is either Islam, or slaves of Islam. And slave is the correct word, because the way the Koran reads, if your not a Muslim, your contemptible, lower then a dog, and not worthy of respect. You lose almost all common human and basic rights in their view of how a Islam society should be conducted.
The very word Islam means submission or surrender. To their Allah. If you don't, you can be killed by a Muslim and he will be rewarded for it by their Allah.
It is not radical, it's the normal for their religion.
As far as peace loving, if ones definition of peace is a 1400 year history (called the tears of jihad) of slaughtering 270 MILLION people for the cause of world wide domination peaceful, well the, ex President Bush, current president Obama, Hillary Clinton, and all you liberal newspapers, TV outlets, and college professors, your either supremely ignorant, or outright liars.
Mohammad preached peacefully in Mecca the first 13 years after his vision in a cave from the angel of Allah. And he made 100 converts, mostly family and friends.
Then he went to Medina, and converted his religious message into a political and legal message, He then began to preach violence. In the next 27 years, until he dies, by the edge of the sword, he made 150,000 converts.
If Mohammad had stayed the course of peaceful conversion, Islam would have died out after he died, because it probably would have had not more then maybe 300 converts.
The soft head liberal Americans (sometimes knowledge puffs up, and the educated get more stupid then smart, especially if you don't have God) may yearn to bend over backwards to be politically correct, to paint the Muslims as victims, to teach apologetics in our schools about the poor, poor Muslims, and how the evil white men enslaved Africans (which I am not of course defending, just trying to make a point here- btw, Muslims have enslaved more people then any religious group in the world, probably more then all of them put together, according to available records) and how dare we speak badly about Islam, because you want to ease your depraved guilty conscience, and want everyone else to comply to your twisted world view, but I am not going down that misguided path for a second.
So lets be real, they are not radical, they are just putting the words into action, unlike most of them. Not because most of the the others don't believe its wrong, but because they have something in common with many of us Christians, they are lukewarm, and they are not putting their beliefs and faith into action.
But don't doubt even for a minute that those that act are more radical then those that don't. Most Muslims believe the same "radical" blueprint.
If they didn't, then they are not really Muslims. If they are in the mood to be honest, and not use the excuse of all the duality in their book, they will admit that themselves. Its like saying I'm a Christian but I don't believe in Jesus.
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| Muhammad... | Jesus... |
| Said Allah does not love those who reject Islam. (Quran 30:45, 3:32, 22:38) | Said God loves everyone. (John 3:16) |
| "I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah" (Muslim 1:33) | "He who lives by the sword will die by the sword." (Matthew 26:52) |
| Stoned women for adultery. (Muslim 4206) | "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." (John 8:7) |
| Permitted stealing from unbelievers. (Bukhari 44:668, Ibn Ishaq 764) | "Thou shalt not steal." (Matthew 19:18) |
| Permitted lying. (Sahih Muslim 6303, Bukhari 49:857) | "Thou shalt not bear false witness." (Matthew 19:18) |
| Owned and traded slaves. (Sahih Muslim 3901) | Neither owned nor traded slaves. |
| Beheaded 800 Jewish men and boys. (Abu Dawud 4390) | Beheaded no one. |
| Murdered those who insulted him. (Bukhari 56:369, 4:241) | Preached forgiveness. (Matthew 18:21-22, 5:38) |
| "If then anyone transgresses the prohibition against you, Transgress ye likewise against him" (Quran 2:194) | "If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also." (Matthew 5:39) |
| Jihad in the way of Allah elevates one's position in Paradise by a hundred fold. (Muslim 4645) | "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called Sons of God" (Matthew 5:9) |
| Married 13 wives and kept sex slaves. (Bukhari 5:268, Quran 33:50) | Was celibate. |
| Slept with a 9-year-old child. (Sahih Muslim 3309, Bukhari 58:236) | Did not have sex with children. |
| Ordered the murder of women. (Ibn Ishaq 819, 995) | Never harmed a woman. |
| "O you who believe! Fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness." (Quran 9:123) | "Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth." (Matthew 5:5) |
| Ordered 65 military campaigns and raids in his last 10 years. (Ibn Ishaq ) | Ordered no military campaigns, nor offered any approval of war or violence. |
| Killed captives taken in battle. (Ibn Ishaq 451) | Never took captives. Never killed anyone. |
| Encouraged his men to rape enslaved women. (Abu Dawood 2150, Quran 4:24) | Never encouraged rape. Never enslaved women. |
| Demanded captured slaves and a fifth of all other loot taken in war. (Quran 8:41) | "The Son of Man came not to be served, but to serve." (Matthew 20:28) |
| Was never tortured, but tortured others. (Muslim 4131, Ibn Ishaq 436, 595, 734, 764) | Suffered torture, but never tortured anyone. |
| "And fight them until there is no more persecution and religion is only for Allah" (Quran 8:39) | "Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you" (Matthew 5:44) |
| Blessed the brutal murder of a half-blind man (al-Tabari 1440) | Healed a blind man (Mark 8:28) |
| Ordered a slave to build the very pulpit from which he preached Islam. (Bukhari 47:743) | Washed his disciples feet. (John 13:5) |
| What are the Greatest Commandments? "Belief in Allah and Jihad in His cause" (Muslim 1:149) | What are the Greatest Commandments? "Love God and love thy neighbor as thyself." (Matthew 22:34-40) |
| Demanded the protection of armed bodyguards, even in a house of worship (Quran 4:102) | Chastised anyone attempting to defend him with force. (John 18:10-12) |
| Died fat and wealthy from what was taken from others in war or demanded from others in tribute. | Demanded nothing for himself. Died without possessions. |
| Advocated crucifying others. (Quran 5:33, Muslim 16:4131) | Was crucified himself. |
| According to his followers: Had others give their lives for him. (Sahih Muslim 4413) | According to his followers: Gave his life for others. (John 18:11 and elsewhere) |
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| Muhammad's Companions... | Jesus's Disciples... |
| Lived as warriors. | Lived like harmless hippies. |
| Slew and persecuted religious minorities. | Were slain and persecuted as a religious minority. |
| Emphasis on Jihad (the way of Muhammad) "He who fights that Allah's word should be superior fights in Allah's cause" (Bukhari 53:355) | Emphasis on Evangelism (the way of Jesus) "Go ye into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature" (Matthew 15:16) |
| Attacked and conquered the populations in parts of 28 modern countries in just the first three decades following Muhammad's death. | Did not resort to violence of any sort, despite tremendous persecution. |
| Declared holy war on the people of five major world religions in just the first 100 years following Muhammad's death. | Went centuries without declaring 'holy war'. |
| Plundered and lived off the wealth of others. | Gave away their possessions to those in need. (Acts 2:44-45) |
| Captured and enslaved non-Muslim people. | Considered themselves to be slaves of others. |
| Waged war to keep members from leaving the religion. Put apostates to death. | No record of aggression toward apostates. |
| Muhammad's own family members quickly fell into armed warfare against each other. | Jesus' disciples never resorted to violence against one another (or anyone else). |
| First 240 Years: 11 of the first 32 caliphs were murdered by fellow Muslims. | First 240 Years: 14 of the first 25 popes were martyred by pagans (none by fellow Christians). |
| Caliphs were polygamous and maintained harems of hundreds of captured sex slaves. | Popes were expected to be celibate. |
| Islamic mosques sustained by taxes forced from subjugated non-Muslims (the jizya). | Christian churches sustained by voluntary tithes from Christians. |
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