getting dates about a young earth
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RobbyEarl
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A lot of things changed from the OT to NT but not the hour of the day.
Acts 2:15
15 For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day.
oddly enough, I was an oec for most of my life.
I like to read stories from literary magazines.
over time, I became more sensitive to tone than I had been.
I think it was my increasing awareness of the difference between the tone of genesis and what I believed
that led me to yec-ism.
I had to ask myself, "if I'd never read this story before, and someone told me it was from a hindu veda, I would have said, 'Looks like they think one of their gods made the world in a really short time, like a week' ".
I don't think that's a good analogy.
I do drive a car.
but when it comes to reading the scriptures, I think it's good to slow down, be sensitive to other things one might learn while searching.
If you lived in a cave, and ignored General Revelation, then I suppose you could have a YEC worldview.
yes, it is inconsistent. the writer says that the seventh day was different, that God set it apart.
Therein lies your problem.
You don't actually study scripture in the original languages.
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RobbyEarl
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I don't ignore general revelation.
but I had to decide what to do
when what I thought general revelation was saying differed from what
I was reading in the scriptures;
not just the strict definitions of the words, but the tone as well.
not true. I learned nt greek so I could learn the truth about JW doctrines (it's a little rusty now).
one thing I learned from that experience, is that with a few exceptions a good word-for-word translation (say, the nasb) gave me the same information.
(and the benefit of the decades of study the translators had.)
I also learned that the nt writers quote the lxx more often than the hebrew.
so I said to myself, Self, is learning hebrew the most efficient use of time, since I already know greek, and the lxx may be more reliable.
I looked at how Luke handles Jesus reading Isaiah in the synagogue, where Jesus says, "the spirit of the Lord is upon me."
the lxx differs from the hebrew a word or phrase here or there.
Luke has Jesus quoting the lxx.
maybe this was because Jesus read from the lxx, or maybe Luke used it instead because his reader was more familiar with it, and Luke figured 'close enough.'
the thrust of the passage remains unchanged, I think.
I agree that God's ways never change.
I think that God makes some things holy, set apart, and some things not.
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Tintin
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Adam only had to name the land animals, not insects and and sea creatures. And remember that there were far fewer animals around at the beginning of creation. Certainly not millions of species. Here's what the Bible says in Genesis 2:18-20):
Then the Lord God said, “It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him a helper fit for him.” [SUP]19 [/SUP]Now out of the ground the Lord God had formed every beast of the field and every bird of the heavens and brought them to the man to see what he would call them. And whatever the man called every living creature, that was its name. [SUP]20 [/SUP]The man gave names to all livestock and to the birds of the heavens and to every beast of the field.
All livestock = domesticated animals
Birds of the heavens = birds that fly
Every beast of the field = all other animal kinds - wild animal kinds eg. other mammals, reptiles etc.
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Tintin
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The Earth didn't become void and full of darkness. It just was void and full of darkness. God had created space, time and matter, but He hadn't yet given that matter form. The Gap Theory is bogus, as is the billions of years timeline necessary for it to seem halfway plausible. Finally, evolutionary philosophy goes all the way back to the Hindu Brahmins of India, back in 1200BC. That's a couple hundred years after Moses wrote the Torah (including Genesis). There's no place for evolution in the life of a Christian.
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eternally-gratefull
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morning and evening.
And God blessed the 7th day. because he rested on the seventh day.
Next!
But we already know your views against the Gap idea, and how you will create consternation against it in trying to wrongly associate it with man's theories of evolution.
So when Apostle Paul taught in Rom.8 about God placing His creation into a state of vanity and in bondage, which shows it at one time was NOT in a state a vanity, where does His Word show that happened when Adam and Eve disobeyed God? Show me Scripture.
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Tintin
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Nonsense. The Gap Theory only came about to try to reconcile the millions and billions of years belief that was being pushed by people who believed some version of evolutionism and long ages (based on their assumptions about geology), before it became the mainstream in Darwin's time.
'The gap theory has come in different forms since its conception in the early 1800s. It was a response to the long geological ages that were coming to the forefront, from a naturalistic worldview of the earth’s geological history, in the late 1700s.'
A helpful article for you to check out:
Genesis 13 undermines gap theory - creation.com
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Tintin
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Show you the Scripture for it? LOL. It's all through the Scriptures. We'd have no Gospel message without that understanding. Why did God come to earth as a human (but still God), to suffer and die and rise to new life in our place? Uh... You can't answer any of that without knowing why we needed a Kinsman Redeemer in the first place. And to do that you need to know that there was a first Adam who buggered it up for everyone and a last Adam (Jesus) who put everything right (the war has ended, but the battle still rages, until He comes back).
That's what is nonsense. Especially since you failed to address my Biblical question and instead threw anti-Gap propaganda at me.