Its called dogma and no use going into it with you! I believe this and you can't change that! So, please lets drop it
Here is the definition of Dogma: a principle or set of principles laid down by an authority(in this case the Catholic Church ) as incontrovertibly true
She was without original sin, not sinless
Yes, that's my story and i am sticking to it no matter how much fun you make of me
Refer to my posts above. i am done with this issue. you've laid out your case, I've laid out mine. We get nowhere as usualAll you have to do is PROVE IT. I'll wait.
Here is the definition of Dogma: a principle or set of principles laid down by an authority(in this case the Catholic Church ) as incontrovertibly true
Amplified Bible( luv my amplifiers! Lol) Luke 1:28 and he came to her and said Hail o favored one[endued with grace]! The Lord is with you! Blessed(favored of God) are you before all other women!
Verse 30 and the angel said to her, Do not be afraid, Mary, for you have found grace(free, spontaneous, absolute favor and loving-kindness) with God!
To tell you the truth, i am becoming disturbed by these forums. I just don't see much love happening here.Keep believing a lie that she was sinless as that is up to you, but you have been shown the truth from many on here by scripture she wasn't....
Our Lord Jesus Christ is the only one who was sinless and scripture proves it !!!
We love our brothers and sisters from the Catholic church, even though I know some may go the wrong way at how they come at you or speak to you. But it is because of that love that we are trying to show you the truth, as I know the Catholic church does teach some truths from the bible, but they also teach some falsehoods to just like any other denomination.....
The most Blessed Virgin Mary was, from the first moment of her conception, by a singular grace and privilege of Almighty God and by virtue of the merits of Jesus Christ, Savior of the human race, preserved immune from all stain of original sin
Its called dogma and no use going into it with you! I believe this and you can't change that! So, please lets drop it
No it isn't. Hello as a word of greeting did not become so until the invention of the Phone. Prior to that it was a word of surprise or confusion.Much to your disappointment, the old English word "hail" is not a high and mighty acclamation. It is merely the precursor to today's "hello".
The woman? I do understand ya'll have no honor for Mary! I hope that won't be held against you! I know if it was my mom, id hold it against you, then again I'm not GodJesus was and is sinless because He is God in the flesh. He never required the woman in which He grew as a baby to be sinless. What would that look like, anyway? Is sin in the uterus? How utterly goofy.
Ya'll thought you could beat me into submission. The exact opposite happened, I'm just going away

Now "Ken" ...[COLOR=#ff0000 said:FancyNancy[/COLOR]
Well when you consider that they pray to saints when Jesus is our only intercessor, they in fact place their saint du jour in the place of Jesus.
What is it called when one gives honour or place to something or someone over the rightful place that Jesus is to occupy?
Idolatry, you say?Gold star for you!
Originally Posted by Pumicestone![]()
Now Ken, I have no problem with some good ole Catholic-bashing. It's always good sport and they're pretty easy targets with their array of silly doctrines ...
BUT, we do our own credibility a disservice when we gild the lily by exaggerating.
They do not 'Worship Mary as their God' "
I can talk to other women in the flesh or online, including "Fancy" Nancies - I might even ask them for stuff (can you spare $20?).
That does not mean that I am placing those women "in place" of my wife.
And certainly not above my wife.
Same thing.
Following your logic, why didn't God just create Jesus out of dust? Why use Mary at all? Unless she has a special purpose. Do you not trust God that Mary is part of His plan? Afterall, He did choose her to bear Jesus. Do you really want to continue slapping God in the face and tell Him Mary is just some woman? Mine aren't that big if you know what I mean
We worship God, not a book and look up the Council of Rome 382 ad to see where you got your bible
Gabriel told her she was full of grace. I know you won't except this because you hate Mary, me, anybody that doesn't agree with you