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I feel right now that I have failed God a little and then the question? How do I fix it or can I?
I promise I didn't go to church this morning thinking how can I offend my brothers and sisters and clear a study classroom but two people did leave and were possibly offended...God Please forgive me...
Topic got on the gay subject....I get so sick of people ranking sins and seems Christians are the worst at it...somehow lying is better than being gay....at any rate...
I just said I thought that all sins no matter what they are will keep you out of heaven and you would end up in hell. I also said I thought that everyone in the room had their pet sin and only they knew what it was and since I am overweight obviously gluttony would be one of my sins.... I said that what if the gay person fought with the choice of do I or do I not have sex with the same gender as I would have to fight making choices of do I or do I not eat the wrong kind of food?
To which one brother got up angry saying no offence to me but that it was an abomination to the Lord to which I replied it doesn't matter the sin as they will all keep you out of heaven...He left the room discussion voices no shouting at all...then another sister got offended by something to which I am not even sure why and she left the room....
Making me feel like a big fat failure with an Exodus taking place....mind you I don't understand or agree with the gay ideal and my friend who is gay knows I don't understand his preference or agree with it. But aren't we called to love all people? I mean am I not suppose to care about and love people who lie, commit adultery, steal and any other sin on the planet even though I don't agree with those choices either?
I do feel bad about this and have prayed about it already and even apologized to the brother who left the classroom but he just was not receptive at all....Failure is what I feel....How can you come home from church and feel bad? Well today I know that experience....But sin is still sin no matter what level anyone else puts on it....and God knows I meant no harm to anyone... Blond again opens mouth and inserts foot....
I promise I didn't go to church this morning thinking how can I offend my brothers and sisters and clear a study classroom but two people did leave and were possibly offended...God Please forgive me...
Topic got on the gay subject....I get so sick of people ranking sins and seems Christians are the worst at it...somehow lying is better than being gay....at any rate...
I just said I thought that all sins no matter what they are will keep you out of heaven and you would end up in hell. I also said I thought that everyone in the room had their pet sin and only they knew what it was and since I am overweight obviously gluttony would be one of my sins.... I said that what if the gay person fought with the choice of do I or do I not have sex with the same gender as I would have to fight making choices of do I or do I not eat the wrong kind of food?
To which one brother got up angry saying no offence to me but that it was an abomination to the Lord to which I replied it doesn't matter the sin as they will all keep you out of heaven...He left the room discussion voices no shouting at all...then another sister got offended by something to which I am not even sure why and she left the room....
Making me feel like a big fat failure with an Exodus taking place....mind you I don't understand or agree with the gay ideal and my friend who is gay knows I don't understand his preference or agree with it. But aren't we called to love all people? I mean am I not suppose to care about and love people who lie, commit adultery, steal and any other sin on the planet even though I don't agree with those choices either?
I do feel bad about this and have prayed about it already and even apologized to the brother who left the classroom but he just was not receptive at all....Failure is what I feel....How can you come home from church and feel bad? Well today I know that experience....But sin is still sin no matter what level anyone else puts on it....and God knows I meant no harm to anyone... Blond again opens mouth and inserts foot....
M
JL, you are a wonderful person, you didn't say anything offensive that I can see here. I agree with you...mostly. I don't believe our sins keep us out of Heaven though, Jesus died to pay the price for them...that's not to say we should never stop trying to overcome them. You are correct Christians are the worst at catagorising sin, Jesus didn't and we should assume that all sin is equal.
The problem I have with homosexuals is they like to shove it in our faces and call it "normal" - it isn't. It's not my business what they do but please don't flaunt it!
Anyway do not reproach yourself, I don't believe you were offensive.
The problem I have with homosexuals is they like to shove it in our faces and call it "normal" - it isn't. It's not my business what they do but please don't flaunt it!
Anyway do not reproach yourself, I don't believe you were offensive.
if they sin, and continue in sin, Jesus did not say just love them as they are. (if they call themselves believers). He said don't even talk with them, don't greet them, and don't have a meal with them.
the purpose is they will be restored to fellowship with God by repenting. notice in scripture God NEVER says 'try' to repent. either repent, or don't.
likewise, God doesn't give an option to "stay friends" regularlly conversing and hanging out with believers who continue in sin without repenting. so it is a sin to do so.
the purpose is they will be restored to fellowship with God by repenting. notice in scripture God NEVER says 'try' to repent. either repent, or don't.
likewise, God doesn't give an option to "stay friends" regularlly conversing and hanging out with believers who continue in sin without repenting. so it is a sin to do so.
C
JL, I am so sorry. I do understand the way you feel. I don't like hurting people or because of what I say convicts them. You spoke the truth about the matter. Is it better to tell the truth about it or is it better to sugar coat it and make someone feel better and they live the rest of their life in denial? Is it okay to feel terrible that someone got their feelings hurt? Yes, but be praying that later he will come to the realization that you were right and come to the understanding that he is a loving God who will happily take the sin away if he is willing to turn from it. I will be praying that you are at peace and Tourist is able to hug and comfort you when I can't give you a hug and say it will all be okay. **HUGS** I love you JL
On occasion, Jesus hung out with tax collectors and prostitutes and was also accused of being a glutton and wine imbiber. He did all of the things that you said that He said that we should avoid. I also believe that Jesus loves us as we are too. At the moment of His betrayal He called Judas his friend. This was the only apostle that Jesus called friend.
S
JL! Now...do I have to hitchhike to Florida sister...to give you sugars on your cheek! I love you! You are beautiful to me! Don't you get sad! You smile!...Besides...I don't want to hitchhike lol...never have or will. I may get picked up by a man who looks like Randy Quaid...yet smells of cheese! Ew...lol. Cheer up JL! You're beautiful...I love you! You didn't do anything wrong! 
JL! Now...do I have to hitchhike to Florida sister...to give you sugars on your cheek! I love you! You are beautiful to me! Don't you get sad! You smile!...Besides...I don't want to hitchhike lol...never have or will. I may get picked up by a man who looks like Randy Quaid...yet smells of cheese! Ew...lol. Cheer up JL! You're beautiful...I love you! You didn't do anything wrong!
