Catholic Heresy (for the record)

[valiant]

Your personal opinion.
Sola scripturist, please cite chapter and verse

well all your views are your own personal opinion lol even your submission to Big Daddy

 

[valiant]

Please don't slander me. I never seek to condemn. I don't use name calling, or accuse, or say you're going to hell, or you're a heretic. Ever.

Catholics seek to embrace what we have in common, Not condemn, but we will defend the faith.

that's your best joke yet LOL Roman Catholics never condemn anyone. .Did you burn Latimer and Ridley for fun?

 

[mattp0625]

that's your best joke yet LOL Roman Catholics never condemn anyone. .Did you burn Latimer and Ridley for fun?

Sorry you can't use "you" and "every catholic that ever lived for 2000 years" interchangeably.

That sounds like a certain president at a certain christian breakfast

 

[valiant]

Sorry you can't use "you" and "every catholic that ever lived for 2000 years" interchangeably

your church is ruled by Big Daddy and all the past Big Daddys you claim they represent Christ and you support them so you share the blame for what they do

 

[mattp0625]

Um. Good logic?

 

[SAVAS]

What were the traditions? I wasn't asking who gave them, but what they were.

How did Christ give them to the Thessalonians?

Okay, A new way of life. What would that be? What was that faith?

Remember, you put the emphasis on tradition.

In fact, here's the response where you emphasized tradition and the Bible.

"This seems pretty straight forward. Ill give it a shot.
I have to note that your disregard for any type of tradition is erroneous. Especially when I'm putting Sola into practice and lets say come across 2 Thess 2:15. I know your in a heated debate about these things but your opinion on tradition isn't inline with Sacred Scripture. WAIT! Did I just perform Sola?! I read a passage, studied it, judged all I believed in light of what it said and came to my conclusion.
OK. My next question valiant, what if two disagree on Sacred Scripture after practicing Sola?"

i misunderstood valiant. he said "override tradition" so i guess he's not opposed to it. and when i say it im meaning a more liturgical worship, which some see as extremely traditional and are opposed to and consider it man made.

A new way of life in the fulfillment of the law, not under it.

 

[MikeHenderson]

It very plainly to see that mattp0625 wants nothing to do with the Truth from the Holy Spirit. His mind is already made up that only the Catholic Church has all the Truth and God and His True Children of God have no Truth!

Talk about being arrogant! Mattp0625 actually puts himself above God! Mattp0625 actually believes and teaches he and the Catholic Church only have the Truth and God has no Truths in Him!

 

[SAVAS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyYdA4aCzOY

Good history

 

[mwc68]

The Catholic Church has the truth, and it gave you the very book you use against them..Jesus gave us us a Church not us a church not a book

 

[mwc68]

First of all, every Catholic doctrine is scriptural. Sola Scriptura is NOT. Once saved, always saved is heresy. Interpretation can not be left up to the individual. Jesus founded one Church, not 30,000. To call Catholics non christians is heresy since All Christians were Catholic before Luther was demon posessed and acted out Satans plan to disrupt Jesus Church

 

[Galahad]

i misunderstood valiant. he said "override tradition" so i guess he's not opposed to it. and when i say it im meaning a more liturgical worship, which some see as extremely traditional and are opposed to and consider it man made.

A new way of life in the fulfillment of the law, not under it.

What was the tradition given to Thessalonians? You have yet to answer that question.

 

[Galahad]

First of all, every Catholic doctrine is scriptural. Sola Scriptura is NOT. Once saved, always saved is heresy. Interpretation can not be left up to the individual. Jesus founded one Church, not 30,000. To call Catholics non christians is heresy since All Christians were Catholic before Luther was demon posessed and acted out Satans plan to disrupt Jesus Church

More of the same. Just statements with no support.

Why should anyone believe the man you call the pope? You need to give an answer with some support or backing. "Study history" supports nothing.

Where is the evidence that the popes are to be believed and obeyed?

What were the traditions given to the Thessalonians?

This is pathetic. The empty hollow statements being put forth as if they alone are reason enough to accept them.

In the 1st century the apostles backed up their claims. In Berea, they searched the scriptures to see if Paul's teaching was in line with scripture.

Where is the evidence?

You Catholics, why do you believe in Catholicism?

 

[Galahad]

First of all, every Catholic doctrine is scriptural.

What does that mean?

Sola Scriptura is NOT.

I say it is. The Bible is the final authority. You say it ain't, I say it is.
Do you understand the importance of backing a statement that makes such a claim?

Once saved, always saved is heresy.

Okay. Some will accept your word on that. Why shouldn't they? You said it and that settles it.

Interpretation can not be left up to the individual.

Okay. Some will accept your word. Why shouldn't they? You said it and that settles it.

Jesus founded one Church, not 30,000.

Wow! Another claim. Some will accept your word. Why shouldn't they? You said it and that settles it.

To call Catholics non christians is heresy since All Christians were Catholic before Luther was demon posessed and acted out Satans plan to disrupt Jesus Church

Yep, same as above. You said it and that settles it.

Have you ever had to write a college paper? No big deal if you haven't. Have you ever watched a "who dun nit" movie and try to figure who the bad guy was?

 

[mwc68]

Have you ever done research for a college paper? Do some research on what i posted. i don't type very well, but everything i have posted is true . your sarcasm shows your lack of respect and anger at us, your. brothers and sisters

 

[mwc68]

By the way i didn't make this stuff up.

 

[mwc68]

Why do i believe Catholicism? It was and still is the Churh Jesus Chist founded. that is fact

 

[valiant]

The Catholic Church has the truth, and it gave you the very book you use against them..Jesus gave us us a Church not us a church not a book

Not another mad man? The Roman Catholic church did not even exist when the Scriptures were decided. The Roman church (in distinction from the Roman Catholic church) was previously a regional church with no authority outside its sphere.

The present Roman Catholic church is a sham built on bloodshed, political force and sexual immorality. It doesn't even know what spirituality means.

Actually Jesus gave us a book. He had no time for tradition. He said 'you make the Word of God void through your tradition'. And that is exactly what the heretical Roman Catholic church is built on. Pagan tradition introduced by Constantine.

The Roman Catholic church is the big lie, a political masquerade. The church which Christ built on His Messiahship as the Son of the living God is the true church, made up of all those who have truly put saving faith in in Jesus Christ, the kind of people the Roman Catholic church persecuted and burnt through the centuries..

 

[valiant]

First of all, every Catholic doctrine is scriptural.

And the moon is made of green cheese.

Sola Scriptura is NOT.

How sad. The prophets, and Jesus Christ, and the Apostles and the early church were all wrong. Big Daddy (some blasphemously call the Pope) says so. I wonder why the early church which existed prior to the foundation of the Roman Catholic church around 700 AD laid such stress on proving their position from Scripture?. If only they'd had Big Daddy to help them they needn't have wasted their time. But had he been around Big Daddy would have been too busy murdering and fornicating and building up wealth as he did from 700 AD onwards..

Once saved, always saved is heresy.

Sorry LORD Jesus. Sorry Paul. Big Daddy says you are heretics. 'this is the Father's will Who sent Me, that of all Whom He has given Me I should lose nothing but should raise them up at the last day' (John 6.39). Guess you just got it wrong LORD Jesus. Big Daddy says so.

Interpretation can not be left up to the individual.

It certainly is not safe in the hands of the bloodthirsty hooligans called the Roman Catholic church.

Jesus founded one Church, not 30,000.

Yes and it certainly wasn't the Roman Catholic church with its wild heresies. The church which Jesus founded was a spiritual church based on the teaching of Jesus Christ and the Apostles. It is made up of all who have put true saving faith in Jesus Christ, do not bow down to images, do not obstruct the way to Jesus Christ with Mariolatry and so-called saints, and so on..

To call Catholics non christians is heresy since

All Roman Catholic ARE heretics. Even the thread says so.

All Christians were Catholic before Luther was demon posessed and acted out Satans plan to disrupt Jesus Church

What a load of rubbish. Tell that to the Orthodox. Tell that to the Celtic church. Tell that to the true saints who suffered persecution by the Roman Catholic church. Tell that to the underground church who survived through the ages. Most Roman Catholics are not Christians at all.

You Roman Catholics are SOOOOOOOOO naïve. Do you really think that Luther caused the Reformation?. It was already in progress long before Luther posted his theses. Men like Wycliff and Tyndale gave the English the Scriptures in their own language, and in spite of all the Roman Catholic efforts to suppress the Scriptures and burn the faithful, the BIBLE brought about the reformation.

The reformation in Switzerland owed nothing to Martin Luther. His main sphere of influence was Germany.

 

[valiant]

Have you ever done research for a college paper?

Yes I have also done research for an advanced theological degree, studied the first five hundred years of church history as one of my specialist subject, and written detailed commentaries on most books of the Bible (the genuine ones).

Do some research on what i posted. i don't type very well, but everything i have posted is true .

on your say so. I saw no evidence. At least we provide evidence.

your sarcasm shows your lack of respect and anger at us, your. brothers and sisters

No it shows that we despise a church which has distorted and fantasised, replacing the truth with fantasies.

 

[valiant]

By the way i didn't make this stuff up.

No LOL. Big Daddy and his cronies did. You just swallow it thoughtlessly.