When does the rapture occur?

[popeye]

The phrase "endure to the end" - as you are making reference to here - means "holding fast to the Faith until death" - not "still being alive at the end"...

I would say so.

 

[popeye]

[ Presently, at this time -- ] I believe that the souls "under the alter" are those from the past ( the Dark Ages ) and the ones they are "waiting for" are from the future ( Revelation 20:4 martyrs ) -- all are 'Tribulation' martyrs.

You are probably right

 

[Bowhunter2394]

And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the Voice of the bridegroom and of the Bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy Merchants were the Great Men of the earth; for by thy Sorceries were all nations Deceived. Revelation 18

If ye look to Revelation you see the Judgment of the Whore, the Harlot of Revelation, the false bride or church, these who 'merchandise' the Word of God, they did it GLOBALLY almost unrestrained, creating 'heaven on earth' or an attempt with their apostate 'force'. how does this global apostate bride 'deceive"? by thy Sorceries, that is Pharmakus, pharmacy, the replacement of the Blood of Christ with a pill to fix that or this behavior to make ye more 'like christ'.... you see the Trouble with that? Idolatry.. the false bride along with Great Men of the earth who merchandise His Word are the ones to do this.. they are indeed those who have set up 'their kingdom' headquarters in Jersualem, as they make Jersualem a 'harlot' just Prior to Her Deliverance at the 2nd Literal coming of Christ from Heaven, much of what you see on TV, hear on Radio, the internet as far as the 'lord'.. is going into that apostate jello mold of christianity... which will use pharmaceutical behavior control meds to 'fix' peoples behavior and align them with a man made image of christ, thus the IMAGE OF MAN comes forth.. and the Mark of Man comes forth.. he/she that hath wisdom let him/her be wise!

 

[popeye]

Denial of imminence clearly taught in scripture is a painful silliness. For all the post-tribber rhetoric about people not believing their viewpoint spawn of Satan and headed to a delusional abyss, yesterday some parable of a deceiver coming to my door to fake a rapture one can't even find a way of seriously responding to, what seems evil to me is a doctrine that can lead to the conclusion no need to have Oil in your lamp, until you've seen the Antichrist. I'm looking everyday for the glorious appearing of the Lord Jesus Christ, not the Antichrist, and scripture agrees with me, therefore I'd be a fool to think any different.

33 Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is.
34 For the Son of Man is as a man taking a far journey, who left his house, and gave authority to his servants, and to every man his work, and commanded the porter to watch.
35 Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the house cometh, at even, or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing, or in the morning:
36 Lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping.
37 And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.
A good spoof would be to play postrib and award the most creative disenfranchisement of Jesus' warning..

"He meant the Jews"
"Anyone can see hail of fire and fllying scorpions in the parable" " They were sleeping because everyone sleeps in the wrath of God"

 

[VCO]

*therefore the CALLING OUT of the BRIDE (Rapture) has to be Prior to the signing of that Treaty, or we will know the day Christ is returning.

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God always calls His Own out of the Apostasy.. Correct, be ye separate, one way He achieves that is to allow the enemy to come in, present 'truth' as a lie... or half truths, or un sound doctrine, God's Own His elect will not follow that but the Spirit will lead them to separate from that.. going into Daniels 70th week, most of what you see today , what calls itself the 'bride of Christ' full of divsion, un sound doctrine, heresy, will upon Daniels 70th Week starting will be 'molded' into that one big jello mold of Apostasy, thus Fulfilling the role of the Harlot of Revelation 17, that global apostate psuedo 'corporate' bride that will use pharmacuetical medication to medicate the masses into its 'christlike ' image.. when certain individuals DONT 'ACT' or behave the utopian christ like image is portrayed. His Elect will be called out of this abomination, her foreshadowing is here.. with her tentacles in about everything that is organized on this planet , from business, to sports, to organized religion. one may ask how does all these groups 'co mingles ' as one corporate false body? the MAN OF SIN.. will do that.. he's coming with great charismatic power and peace.. but its false. you see the foreshadowing of him in the likes of many who stir the TV Airwaves or Radio airwaves today.. Robertson, Osteen, etc..... holding out an 'image'. of a man made christ.. God will Call Out His Elect from that stuff.. no part in it!

Bowhunter, where on earth did you find that teaching. Maybe you had better check the spine and fletching on those arrows, they are not flying straight.


ARROW SPINE:

All I get out of the following verse, IS THAT:
IN THE END TIMES THE MAJORITY OF SOCIETY WOULD RATHER SPEND TIME GETTING HIGH ON DRUGS, THAN TIME STUDYING GOD'S WORD.

Revelation 9:21 (NKJV)
[SUP]21 [/SUP] And they did not repent of their murders {Could be a reference to being full of hate.} or their sorceries {The Greek Word is [FONT=Gentium !important]pharmakeia [/FONT]and is a clear reference to drugs. Sorcerers were the Drug Dealers in Bible times, only they called them magic potions.}, or their sexual immorality or their thefts.

 

[PlainWord]

Would add this "flavor of the month" Muslim Antichrist theory is just stuffing the news into scripture, I believe just destined another 100% failed attempt in the track record of these things. as the Antichrist coming in as a world uniter, and being Muslim, is like the concept of the wolf coming to the flock in wolves' clothing. Islam is about as divisive as one can get, from a global perspective.

Of course the Man of Sin (which you call AntiChrist) will be Muslim. We are told this if you know how to read the Apocalyptic symbols that John takes from Daniel. Here's where the "Beast of the Sea" comes from which the False Prophet "forces" people to worship.

Rev 13: ...And I saw a beast rising up out of the sea... [SUP]2 [/SUP]Now the beast which I saw was like a leopard, his feet were like the feet of a bear, and his mouth like the mouth of a lion.

The key words in the above are "Beast of the sea", Like a: "leopard", "lion" and "bear." Here's the passage from Daniel that John uses to code the location.

Dan 7: [SUP]3 [/SUP]And four great beasts came up from the sea, each different from the other. [SUP]4 [/SUP]The first was like a lion..

THIS WAS BABYLON which is Modern Day IRAQ

...a second, like a bear...

THIS WAS MEDO-PERSIA which is modern day IRAN

...and there was another, like a leopard...

THIS WAS GREECE which includes Turkey, Syria and Lebanon.

Can anyone tell us what is the predominant religion of Turkey, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq and Iran? Here's a hint: This religion beheads those who don't follow their faith. They are also represent the single largest religion in the world, representing nearly 1/4 of all people. They also hate Israel and would love to see her destroyed. They have been in the news a little bit lately. I knew some people won't get it but would anyone else like to take a guess which religion the AntiChrist will force people under his influence to follow?

Some don't know how to read Revelation. Some don't want help making it clear that help isn't wanted, needed or appreciated. Some people would rather continue to read Revelation as if it was a modern book written in today's styles that you can pick up at Barnes & Noble rather than an ancient book written in Apocalyptic code during a time of severe persecution where things you write could not only get you killed but anyone in possession of your writing as well. Thus some people will NEVER understand Revelation because they are looking under the wrong rock on the wrong continent.

Islam will NEVER unite the entire world and nothing tells us they do. He unites the Islamic world and even the Qur'an teaches this. They have power over 1/4 of the earth. It is this part of the earth that all the scary stuff applies to.

So I looked, and behold, a green horse. And the name of him who sat on it was Death, and Hades followed with him. And power was given to them over a fourth of the earth, to kill with sword, with hunger, with death, and by the beasts of the earth.

 

[Bowhunter2394]

Of course the Man of Sin (which you call AntiChrist) will be Muslim. We are told this if you know how to read the Apocalyptic symbols that John takes from Daniel. Here's where the "Beast of the Sea" comes from which the False Prophet "forces" people to worship.

Rev 13: ...And I saw a beast rising up out of the sea... [SUP]2 [/SUP]Now the beast which I saw was like a leopard, his feet were like the feet of a bear, and his mouth like the mouth of a lion.

The key words in the above are "Beast of the sea", Like a: "leopard", "lion" and "bear." Here's the passage from Daniel that John uses to code the location.

Dan 7: [SUP]3 [/SUP]And four great beasts came up from the sea, each different from the other. [SUP]4 [/SUP]The first was like a lion..

THIS WAS BABYLON which is Modern Day IRAQ

...a second, like a bear...

THIS WAS MEDO-PERSIA which is modern day IRAN

...and there was another, like a leopard...

THIS WAS GREECE which includes Turkey, Syria and Lebanon.

Can anyone tell us what is the predominant religion of Turkey, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq and Iran? Here's a hint: This religion beheads those who don't follow their faith. They are also represent the single largest religion in the world, representing nearly 1/4 of all people. They also hate Israel and would love to see her destroyed. They have been in the news a little bit lately. I knew some people won't get it but would anyone else like to take a guess which religion the AntiChrist will force people under his influence to follow?

Some don't know how to read Revelation. Some don't want help making it clear that help isn't wanted, needed or appreciated. Some people would rather continue to read Revelation as if it was a modern book written in today's styles that you can pick up at Barnes & Noble rather than an ancient book written in Apocalyptic code during a time of severe persecution where things you write could not only get you killed but anyone in possession of your writing as well. Thus some people will NEVER understand Revelation because they are looking under the wrong rock on the wrong continent.

Islam will NEVER unite the entire world and nothing tells us they do. He unites the Islamic world and even the Qur'an teaches this. They have power over 1/4 of the earth. It is this part of the earth that all the scary stuff applies to.

So I looked, and behold, a green horse. And the name of him who sat on it was Death, and Hades followed with him. And power was given to them over a fourth of the earth, to kill with sword, with hunger, with death, and by the beasts of the earth.

Sorry your 'theory' or doctrine doesn't add up. Nope. the Man of Sin, Son of Perdition... Judas Isacariot was the only other man to be named the Son of Perdition, it was better for him if he'd never been born, Judas was a 'disciple' , a chosen Disciple of 'Christ'... NOT MOHAMMAD nor the muslim religion.......... sorry.. the man of sin will be an apostate christian, a man who claims to follow 'christ'.. the COMING harlot of Rev . 17 will teach preach everything OTHER than what the man of sin truly is, his identity, why? because of the Mystery of Iniquity, no one would ever think or believe the man of sin would come out of the professinig 'church' or bride, BUT he does, cause he is an apostate, satan would love you to believe he is anything 'other than what his true identity is'. and what he arises out of.. the son of PERDITION, Judas Isacariot and the 'coming man of sin', both disciples or claiming to be disciples of christ , but both of the 'devil'.. these claiming to be disciples of 'christ'.. not of mohammad or the Muslim religion.. InDeed! the Man of sin will arise out of a global apostate pentecostal 'sect'- divsion- denomination- whatever you want to call it.. he will arise out of this group.. its one of the fastest and LARGEST growing 'sects or denominations today'.. Indeed.. the Mimicry of 'satan'.. so well covered up with his cunningness and craftiness... indeed!

 

[popeye]

Of course the Man of Sin (which you call AntiChrist) will be Muslim. We are told this if you know how to read the Apocalyptic symbols that John takes from Daniel. Here's where the "Beast of the Sea" comes from which the False Prophet "forces" people to worship.

Rev 13: ...And I saw a beast rising up out of the sea... [SUP]2 [/SUP]Now the beast which I saw was like a leopard, his feet were like the feet of a bear, and his mouth like the mouth of a lion.

The key words in the above are "Beast of the sea", Like a: "leopard", "lion" and "bear." Here's the passage from Daniel that John uses to code the location.

Dan 7: [SUP]3 [/SUP]And four great beasts came up from the sea, each different from the other. [SUP]4 [/SUP]The first was like a lion..

THIS WAS BABYLON which is Modern Day IRAQ

...a second, like a bear...

THIS WAS MEDO-PERSIA which is modern day IRAN

...and there was another, like a leopard...

THIS WAS GREECE which includes Turkey, Syria and Lebanon.

Can anyone tell us what is the predominant religion of Turkey, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq and Iran? Here's a hint: This religion beheads those who don't follow their faith. They are also represent the single largest religion in the world, representing nearly 1/4 of all people. They also hate Israel and would love to see her destroyed. They have been in the news a little bit lately. I knew some people won't get it but would anyone else like to take a guess which religion the AntiChrist will force people under his influence to follow?

Some don't know how to read Revelation. Some don't want help making it clear that help isn't wanted, needed or appreciated. Some people would rather continue to read Revelation as if it was a modern book written in today's styles that you can pick up at Barnes & Noble rather than an ancient book written in Apocalyptic code during a time of severe persecution where things you write could not only get you killed but anyone in possession of your writing as well. Thus some people will NEVER understand Revelation because they are looking under the wrong rock on the wrong continent.

Islam will NEVER unite the entire world and nothing tells us they do. He unites the Islamic world and even the Qur'an teaches this. They have power over 1/4 of the earth. It is this part of the earth that all the scary stuff applies to.

So I looked, and behold, a green horse. And the name of him who sat on it was Death, and Hades followed with him. And power was given to them over a fourth of the earth, to kill with sword, with hunger, with death, and by the beasts of the earth.

Certainly gives credance to the lopping off of heads,but he decieves the Jews also. Will they buy it?

 

[PlainWord]

Certainly gives credance to the lopping off of heads,but he decieves the Jews also. Will they buy it?

Which passage(s) are you referring to?

 

[VCO]

There will only be one Second Coming. There will not be a Third Coming. The 'rapture' and His feet touching the ground will both occur at / during the Second Coming.

No, because a Jewish Wedding traditionally takes place in the House of the Bridegroom's Father; where the Bridegroom has built a new dwelling place for His bride. The Wedding Ceremony is a week long, and ends with the Wedding Feast. THEN and only then does the Bridegroom get to set foot, in the Bride's old dwelling place for a Feast with her Family members that could not make the trip to the Seven Day Wedding Ceremony. Not one time between the time the Bride accepted the Proposal and the Bridegroom announced, "I go to prepare a place for you."; and the Wedding Supper, does He set foot in the Brides old dwelling place. The Bridegroom ALWAYS on the night of the start of the Wedding, calls the Bride OUT, FROM OUTSIDE OF HER DWELLING PLACE, to go to His Father's House for the Wedding. Ask any JEW.


Let me help you with that:

Submitted by the Israeli Embassy New Zealand...

. . .

After the groom had made the covenant, drank the cup, and paid the price, he would make a little speech to the bride. He was going to leave her for a long time and go back to his father's house. He was going to build a bridal chamber for her, a place where they would have their first coming together in marriage (modern honeymoon). Before he left her he would tell her: "I go to prepare a place for you". The contract, cup, and money were her security that he would return no matter how long it took him to build the bridal chamber.
. . .
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/marriage.htm

BIBLE STUDY MANUALS: JEWISH MARRIAGE CUSTOMS

 

[Skgrim]

Prophecy is sometimes described as history written in advance. God foresaw many trends and events to come—in part because He perfectly understands what people will do in given circumstances and also because He guides and directs some circumstances.
To some extent, prophecy is God's advance warnings against ongoing human sin. Since sin harms us and can destroy us, God proclaims prophetic warnings to get the attention of human beings. Prophesied punishments are the results brought on by human beings. God wants to spare humankind, not destroy us.
Most people assume that prophetic warnings against human beings come from a vengeful God who cannot tolerate a weak and disobedient humanity. They reason that since God is holy and all-powerful and we aren't, and since we can never make ourselves holy, then God loses patience with our pathetic state and punishes us—perhaps even unfairly.
But that is not why God proclaims end-time prophecies. This is a false notion from the god of this world, Satan the devil, who has deceived humankind about God in many ways. As long as he can keep humanity blind to the true God's intentions, he can remain in his place as "the god of this age" (2 Corinthians:4:4).
People need to realize that Satan, who was "a murderer from the beginning" (John:8:44), wants all of mankind dead—forever. At the very end of this age of human misrule, Satan will attempt to destroy all humanity through two great military forces that will converge on Jerusalem to make war against the returning Christ, the Messiah (Revelation:16:14; 19:11-21; 14:14-20).
Prophecy shows that God is ultimately in charge, that He has a plan for humankind's future, and that human life has a great purpose. God's will is to save, not destroy, mankind.
Prophecy shows that God pleads with those who resist Him and that He will reward those who honor Him.
Prophecy's misunderstood purpose


Let's consider, then, the purpose of prophecy.
People from time immemorial have wanted to know the future, mostly for their personal benefit. For example, Jesus' disciples wanted to know what signs would precede His return. "Tell us," they asked, "when will these things be? And what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?" (Matthew:24:3). Human beings want to know what's coming, if for no other reason than their personal protection.
Though people want to know the what, when and where of prophecy—good of itself—this is not the primary purpose of prophecy. The purpose of prophecy, rather, is to help people evaluate their personal conduct in light of God's Word— before the prophesied circumstances come to pass. Without the warnings and fulfillments of prophecy, humanity would have no reason to question and stop its self-indulgent path to self-destruction.
If people read and heed God's warnings, they could look to Him to protect them during the coming days of the Great Tribulation and His wrathful just judgment against the tyrants of this world. As Jesus said, "Because you have kept My command to persevere, I also will keep you from the hour of trial [the Great Tribulation, see Matthew:24:21-22


] which shall come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth" (Revelation:3:10).
God is merciful and loving. His Word is full of warnings to sinning human beings to get them to turn from sin and avoid its painful and inevitable consequences. God derives no pleasure from the death of the wicked (Ezekiel:33:11). He also promises to reward, bless and protect those who follow His will (Deuteronomy:28:1-2


).
The backstory of prophecy


The Bible gives the backstory of prophecy in Deuteronomy 28. This chapter shows the blessings and curses that automatically follow from either obeying or rejecting God's laws. These laws are spiritual (Romans:7:14) and apply regardless of whether one knows about them or not (Romans:2:12). God promises to bless everyone who honors Him and, alternatively, He allows curses to come on those who dishonor Him. Understanding this fundamental aspect of God's laws is foundational to understanding prophecy.
This one chapter, Deuteronomy 28, is pivotal to all prophecies. Know this chapter and you will know the purpose of prophecy. Again, the purpose of prophecy is to help human beings to turn from their sins and seek God for His blessings.
Many Bible stories validate this backstory of prophecy, but few highlight it better than the story of Judah and Babylon. For many years God warned the kingdom of Judah not to follow the way of her kinsmen, the neighboring kingdom of Israel.
Israel's sins brought about its own demise, just as foretold in Deuteronomy:28:15. Eventually God allowed the cruel nation of Assyria to conquer and carry Israel away from its homeland in two massive deportations—in 733 and 722 B.C.
Nearly a century later, God gave Judah a righteous king, Josiah, as a last-ditch hope to save the Jewish nation from imminent captivity (2 Chronicles:34:1, 26-28). God also sent the prophets Jeremiah, Zephaniah and Habakkuk. Sadly, after Josiah's untimely death the people of Judah quickly returned to their sinful ways, like a washed hog that wallows in its slop and a dog that returns to its vomit (2 Peter:2:22). Like Israel, they, too, were invaded and taken away into captivity.
Again, the purpose of prophecy is to motivate people to question their conduct in light of clear Bible teachings. That applies to all people, whether they profess Christianity or not. Some will heed the warnings of God's end-time prophecies, and many will remain ignorant of them.
Jesus said that He spoke to the religious types of His day in parables because they refused to honor and obey Him:
"I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand. And in them the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled, which says: 'Hearing you will hear and shall not understand, and seeing you will see and not perceive; for the hearts of this people have grown dull, their ears are hard of hearing, and their eyes they have closed, lest they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears, lest they should understand with their hearts and turn [back to God in repentance], so that I should heal them'" (Matthew:13:13-15




).
Strong end-time prophecies are like shots across the bows of rudderless societal ships, adrift on a sea of humanism, cast about by materialism. If there were no prophecy, and especially no end-time prophecies, humankind would have no one to challenge its dangerous drift into self-destruction.

 

[popeye]

http://www.ucg.org/news-and-prophecy/overview-end-time-prophecy/

You should link a copy and past.

Otherwise you are essentially claiming it as your own words.

 

[Skgrim]

Not all prophecies are understandable today, but they all will become clear in the future as geopolitical and technological changes transpire. Who could see the advancement of communications through the vehicle of the computer and Internet? Still, God promises to reveal the future to His faithful people sent out to proclaim His truth: "Surely the Lord God does nothing, unless He reveals His secret to His servants the prophets" (Amos:3:7).
And God has indeed revealed to His followers a few end-time conditions that must be in place before Christ Jesus returns. These conditions have been met only within the last century.
• First, the real possibility of human annihilation must exist.
Humankind now has the ability to wipe out human life through nuclear warheads. That prospect already exists with the United States and Russia; and Britain, France, China, India, and Israel also have sizable nuclear arsenals. Especially dangerous is the development of nuclear weapons by unstable states like Pakistan and North Korea, possibly soon to be joined by Iran.
Jesus said of the time of the end: "It will be a time of great distress; there has never been such a time from the beginning of the world until now, and will never be again. If that time of troubles were not cut short, no living thing could survive; but for the sake of God's chosen it will be cut short" (Matthew:24:21-22


; New English Bible).
Humankind has always fought wars, but until recently we've never had the ability to exterminate every human being from the earth. Since 1945 and the detonation of the first atomic bombs, followed by even more destructive hydrogen bombs, humanity now has the ability to destroy all human life many times over.
Jesus Christ must intervene to save humankind from itself—from self-annihilation!
• Second, a Jewish nation must be in place and in control of Jerusalem for some end-time prophecies to be fulfilled.
This was not possible before 1948, when the modern state of Israel was born—something thought impossible over preceding centuries.





The Jews' culture and religion has survived major periods when they were dominated or defeated by Babylon, Persia, Greece and Rome. Noted 19th-century historian Heinrich Graetz said, "A nation . . . which has witnessed the rise and decay of the most ancient empires, and which still continues to hold its place in the present day, deserves . . . the closest attention" ( History of the Jews, 1895, p. 705).
The French emperor Napoleon, when passing near a synagogue and hearing Jews weeping inside, remarked, "A people that longs so much for its city and its temple are bound to restore them one day!"
Jesus prophesied that as the end time approached, the Jews would once again control Jerusalem and the "holy place." Later Jesus said the holy place would be desecrated with the abomination of desolation, as the prophet Daniel had earlier written about (Matthew:24:15-16


).
The Jews today control Jerusalem. After the Six-Day War in 1967, when the Jews took possession of Jerusalem, they allowed the Arab Muslims to continue to control the Temple Mount. Since 1989, some Israelis have begun to prepare for the building of a new temple or "holy place." Periodically devout Jews have attempted to place the first stone, but to no avail. The conditions of Jesus' prophecy are partially in place, but more must change before prophesied events can proceed.
• Third, a final revival of a major European geopolitical power must come to pass.
A final revival of the ancient Roman Empire, foretold in the biblical books of Daniel and Revelation, must surface. Daniel:2:40-44








shows that a kingdom of iron, fourth in succession from ancient Babylon, would rule until the end time. That can apply only to the ancient Roman Empire and its 10 revivals, the last seven of which were influenced by the Roman church (compare Revelation 17).
At the end time 10 "kings" or rulers align themselves in a final world superpower that Scripture calls "the beast," led by a powerful dictator also called the Beast (verses 12-13). The time setting of this prophecy is clear from the fact that these 10 rulers "will make war with the Lamb"—the returning Jesus Christ—"and the Lamb will overcome them, for He is Lord of lords and King of kings" (verse 14).
Only Europe can fill this role. Only Europe and the Roman church have worked together throughout the previous revivals of the ancient Holy Roman Empire. No other kingdom or continent can boast of such a 1,500-year-long relationship.
Newsweek journalist Michael Elliot reported that "in January 1957, six nations signed a treaty on the site of the ancient Roman Capitol, and brought into being the European Economic Community" ( Newsweek , Jan. 29, 1996). Paul-Henri Spaak, the then Belgian foreign minister, said of that time, "Do you think that we have laid the first stone of a new Roman Empire?" His aide recalled, "We felt very strongly we were Romans that day" (ibid.).
How can end-time prophecy help you?


The Left Behind series of fictional novels cannot provide true prophetic insight to the end times. Only God can.
God provides end-time prophecies to cause a self-willed humanity to return to Him. He wants us to repent and fulfill our potential to be His children forever! He wants us to follow Him and to share the good news of Christ's return and the Kingdom of God with others. Though, as we have seen, Christians will be persecuted and martyred in the end time, God has a plan to protect many of those who turn to Him from the terrible prophetic events to come.
To many of those who watch world news in light of end-time Bible prophecy, who are alert to their spiritual condition and who pray continually to draw close to Him, God offers protection in these coming perilous times (Luke:21:29-36














). As we saw earlier in Deuteronomy 28, we can obey God and be blessed now and, more importantly, in the life to come.
Satan's avowed purpose is to destroy humanity. He thinks that he can destroy all human beings through the Great Tribulation before Jesus Christ can intervene to save us. Though billions will die (to be resurrected later in God's plan), many millions will remain alive to begin a new life, rebuilding the waste places and living in a new global Garden of Eden under the reign of Jesus Christ on earth (Ezekiel:36:33-35




).

 

[popeye]

..........Link?

 

[VCO]

..........Link?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mpBTEOAQJs

 

[Skgrim]

So when you copy and paste a scripture from the Bible are you essentially claiming it as your own? Just asking!
i believe everything I post I use my phone and its so much easier to use there words than me type my own version of what I believe

 

[VCO]

So when you copy and paste a scripture from the Bible are you essentially claiming it as your own? Just asking!
i believe everything I post I use my phone and its so much easier to use there words than me type my own version of what I believe

Then SK, you should at least type

ahead of the quote and again at the end, only at the end put a / in front of the q. That will put it in a separate text block, so we know it is a quote. But I do agree with popeye, the reference link at the end, is common courtesy.

 

[PlainWord]

I believe the bride is removed b 4 the Ac,or right at his debuet.
I also think a "black dread" will blanket this earth s most will know what has happened. Along with this sick feeling will comw LAWLESSNESS. Peace will be taken from the planet. Murder galore.
Churche will be filled,revival will be global,and awesome,and the AC will be empowered.
NUMERO UNO is the mark. This HAS TO BE.
Enter those refusing and incarcerated,later beheaded.

"Oh I am so glad me and my family did the right thing and took the mark. Just look at what happened to those stupid christians"

Again, not receiving "the mark" has nothing to do with being killed by the "Beast." It deals with not being able to buy or sell. Receiving "the mark" isn't even required. You can do one of three things, the "mark" being one of them.

[SUP]17 [/SUP]and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

So, you have three options to be able to buy and sell in the Muslim world:

1) Have the "Mark"
2) Have the "Name of the Beast"
3) Have the "Number of his name"

If you want to know what the "mark" is, study Ezekiel 9. Nobody is going to be getting a micro chip in the forehead or hand, that's Hal Lindsay nonsense. If a micro chip was required, then you wouldn't be given two other options.

...to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads...

Right Hand = Servitude
Forehead = Knowledge
Buy and Sell = Engage publicly in Commerce

This passage means simply that these people have been set apart (marked) to serve Allah. They are "marked" by Satan to do his bidding, much of which is to kill, kill, kill in the Name of Allah. They think by killing (and being killed) in the name of Allah that they get to go to heaven and receive 72 virgins, however, "DEATH AND HADES FOLLOWS THEM." Every single one of them who is worshiping Allah will be killed by "Him who sat on the horse."

...he deceived those who received the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image...

You see, "the mark" is not a term for a physical thing, rather it is a spiritual condition. The above clearly tells us that people aren't forced to receive "the mark" rather they are deceived into accepting it. In other words, Muslims (and others) are deceived into following and worshiping and serving Islam. There will never be peace on the "earth" unless the Muslims are destroyed. Revelation speaks to them as much as anyone, warning them of their pending judgment, if they do not turn away from their false worship, and worship the true God.

[SUP]21 [/SUP]And the rest were killed with the sword which proceeded from the mouth of Him who sat on the horse.

The Lord kills the Muslims with a "Sword"

Jeremiah 50 tells the story of God's judgment which will come to the Arabs (Mixed Peoples) of Babylon.

[SUP]35 [/SUP]“A sword is against the Chaldeans,” says the Lord,
“Against the inhabitants of Babylon,
And against her princes and her wise men.
[SUP]36 [/SUP]A sword is against the soothsayers, and they will be fools.
A sword is against her mighty men, and they will be dismayed.
[SUP]37 [/SUP]A sword is against their horses,
Against their chariots,
And against all the mixed peoples who are in her midst;
And they will become like women.
A sword is against her treasures, and they will be robbed.
[SUP]38 [/SUP]A drought is against her waters, and they will be dried up.
For it is the land of carved images,
And they are insane with their idols.
[SUP]39 [/SUP]“Therefore the wild desert beasts shall dwell there with the jackals,
And the ostriches shall dwell in it.
It shall be inhabited no more forever,
Nor shall it be dwelt in from generation to generation.
[SUP]40 [/SUP]As God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah
And their neighbors,” says the Lord,
“So no one shall reside there,
Nor son of man dwell in it.

We need to pray for those who serve Allah to come to repentance and come to know our Lord and Savior. A horrible fate awaits those who do not turn away from Islam. They will have no part in the Kingdom of Heaven.

 

[popeye]

So when you copy and paste a scripture from the Bible are you essentially claiming it as your own? Just asking!
i believe everything I post I use my phone and its so much easier to use there words than me type my own version of what I believe

when you copy and paste a scripture from the Bible are you essentially claiming it as your own?

I reference it about half the time,but those verses are common,and a babe in christ can see it for what it is.....bible

Your website is UCG. So what are they? what do they believe?. I had to waste my time to look them up.

 

[popeye]

So, you have three options to be able to buy and sell in the Muslim world:
1) Have the "Mark"
2) Have the "Name of the Beast"
3) Have the "Number of his name"

Or,one option.(if I get one of your "options" i get the other 2.....hello?)

If you want to know what the "mark" is, study Ezekiel 9. Nobody is going to be getting a micro chip in the forehead or hand, that's Hal Lindsay nonsense. If a micro chip was required, then you wouldn't be given two other options.

...to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads...

Right Hand = Servitude
Forehead = Knowledge
Buy and Sell = Engage publicly in Commerce

This passage means simply that these people have been set apart (marked) to serve Allah. They are "marked" by Satan to do his bidding, much of which is to kill, kill, kill in the Name of Allah. They think by killing (and being killed) in the name of Allah that they get to go to heaven and receive 72 virgins, however, "DEATH AND HADES FOLLOWS THEM." Every single one of them who is worshiping Allah will be killed by "Him who sat on the horse."

Or,one could just go with the obvious right?....(an actual "mark,chip,barcode",whatever.....)

You think merchants are going to hold an envelope to their heads (karnac) and see "spiritually" that you have a "spiritual mark"

BTW,where is the link to your maps and this 'spiritual mark"?