A woman as a Pastor? Does it make it right if there is a need for pastors?

[elf3]

Tears from God "it saddens me that they argue over who should preach instead of what they preach".

 

[fredjames]

Just my opinion, but I think a woman pastor who shepherds with Truth and love to the Glory of God is much better than a Sunday school teaching nun who pulls ears, smashes knuckles and perpetually frightens children about eternal damnation.

Your so called 'opinion' and elf3's 'likes', is a 'dung' of fleshly/carnality thinking and acknowledging attitudes, 'stinking' as the pattern of this world, in the Kingdom of GOD. 'Mocking' against what GOD has already established as Grace and Truth foundation through CHRIST, that is the written New Covenant, HE made with us according to mutual agreement of acceptance.

i am more frightened for you both, regarding your true Teacher, who is a 'jealous GOD' and also a 'consuming fire'. And as to you and others, may also 'think' and 'acknowledge', that there may be a little joke said, here and there, being in the Kingdom of GOD, but does no harm to anyone.

But stop and let this be a reminder and reference to all, that Aaron's sons served as priest at the altar in the Temple with Aaron, and only made one simple mistake burning incense that day, and immediately what happened unexpectedly, in a moment?

And they were immediately carried out and replaced with the other two sons of Aaron, without a chance of repentance or a chance morning by the parent, for the lost?

We should be thankful that GOD is merciful for now with you both, others and me, for repentance, due to CHRIST's 'interceding'.

But when the time is up, HE will punish.

You are more concerned about a human strict teacher who disciplines his stubborn and lazy students and not at all concern about your strict Holy FATHER who 'corrects' and 'chastises' (Hebrews chapter 12) HIS children and who art in Heaven as the Sovereign GOD, who have already given us the New Covenant to 'abide' and without HIM we can do 'nothing' for HIM.

Moreover, you and such women pastors imagination and establishment and those who acknowledge such, only accumulate trouble for yourselves on judgement day and be destine to hell for 'lawlessness', if this kind of carnal/fleshly mentality attitude continues and even establishes in the churches of GOD.

Thank you and may you be forgiven and be changed in spirituality by GOD in the name of LORD JESUS CHRIST.

 

[ISeeYou]

Here is a picture of the strange fire

Levitus 10:1 And Nadab and Abihu, the sons of Aaron, took either of them his censer, and put fire therein, and put incense thereon, and offered **strange fire** before the LORD, which he ***commanded them not***.

Levitus 10:2 And there **went out** fire from the LORD, and devoured them, and they **died** before the LORD.

Leviticus 10:3 Then Moses said unto Aaron, This is it **that** the LORD spake, saying, I will be sanctified in them that come nigh me, and before all the people I will be glorified. And Aaron held his peace.

And these say here similarly ...

1Peter 4:11 If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God; if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth: that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

And likewise....

2Thes 1:2 That the name of our Lord Jesus Christ may be glorified in you, and ye in him, according to the grace of our God and the Lord Jesus Christ.

 

[fredjames]

Clearly its the folks who are trying to look to the scriptures that are carnal...not you guys who insult everyone who is trying to have a honest discussion.


Ga 5:19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife,

Have you read the bible....Deborah was a prophet and judge of Israel...so we must admit God does ordain woman and appoint them as leaders in the law....Paul told us to look at the law.

Not at all as leaders/pastors of HIS church. That is the main question to the Thread, posted by a believer for justification. Please take note of your first reply to me, 'for you condemn your 'self' because you do the very same things that they do'.

There was already a 'male leader' for Israel during Prophetess Deborah's calling from GOD. She first had to consult with him and upon acceptance of the message and given permission from the 'leader', she was allowed to address to the nation what GOD has said through her. She only acted as how the other prophets acted towards the nation of Israel, even when there was already present chosen 'male leader' and 'leaders' to each 'clan''. Their actual true 'leader' was and is Moses from GOD, who gave GOD's Commandments and Laws, called by the people as the 'Law of Moses'. The Prophets or Prophetess later comes to caution and warn and pronounce GOD's judgement on them of the violation of GOD's Covenant, made through Moses.

Please forgive us to be hard on you or others, but also please then again take time and listen to the full testimony of ours by the HOLY SPIRIT, that we are in service, bitter of sweet testimony, only for you and not against you. Rather than you reply immediately in irritation and frustration from reading a few, not able to perceive in a moment our testimony in full, that is of the sound doctrine knowledge of the Holy Bible.

 

[KJV1611]

How can it get any more cut and dry than this? God has a plan and model for everything. The woman represents the church and the man represents Christ. Men are no better than women and vice versa... it's just a physical representation of the spiritual reality.

1Ti 2:11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.
1Ti 2:12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

The problem comes in when people ignore the patterns set forth by God... then you get witchcraft preacherettes like Joyce Meyer, Paula white, Beth Moore... etc.

 

[Mitspa]

Not at all as leaders/pastors of HIS church. That is the main question to the Thread, posted by a believer for justification. Please take note of your first reply to me, 'for you condemn your 'self' because you do the very same things that they do'.

There was already a 'male leader' for Israel during Prophetess Deborah's calling from GOD. She first had to consult with him and upon acceptance of the message and given permission from the 'leader', she was allowed to address to the nation what GOD has said through her. She only acted as how the other prophets acted towards the nation of Israel, even when there was already present chosen 'male leader' and 'leaders' to each 'clan''. Their actual true 'leader' was and is Moses from GOD, who gave GOD's Commandments and Laws, called by the people as the 'Law of Moses'. The Prophets or Prophetess later comes to caution and warn and pronounce GOD's judgement on them of the violation of GOD's Covenant, made through Moses.

Please forgive us to be hard on you or others, but also please then again take time and listen to the full testimony of ours by the HOLY SPIRIT, that we are in service, bitter of sweet testimony, only for you and not against you. Rather than you reply immediately in irritation and frustration from reading a few, not able to perceive in a moment our testimony in full, that is of the sound doctrine knowledge of the Holy Bible.

Well the fact is Paul told us to look to the law for guidance of how God works in the church on this issue.

 

[Mitspa]

How can it get any more cut and dry than this? God has a plan and model for everything. The woman represents the church and the man represents Christ. Men are no better than women and vice versa... it's just a physical representation of the spiritual reality.



The problem comes in when people ignore the patterns set forth by God... then you get witchcraft preacherettes like Joyce Meyer, Paula white, Beth Moore... etc.

Paul goes on to explain why...because of the transgression of Eve and then to explain that a woman could be delivered from this transgression if they continued in sincere service to God and the church.

 

[Mitspa]

Your so called 'opinion' and elf3's 'likes', is a 'dung' of fleshly/carnality thinking and acknowledging attitudes, 'stinking' as the pattern of this world, in the Kingdom of GOD. 'Mocking' against what GOD has already established as Grace and Truth foundation through CHRIST, that is the written New Covenant, HE made with us according to mutual agreement of acceptance.

i am more frightened for you both, regarding your true Teacher, who is a 'jealous GOD' and also a 'consuming fire'. And as to you and others, may also 'think' and 'acknowledge', that there may be a little joke said, here and there, being in the Kingdom of GOD, but does no harm to anyone.

But stop and let this be a reminder and reference to all, that Aaron's sons served as priest at the altar in the Temple with Aaron, and only made one simple mistake burning incense that day, and immediately what happened unexpectedly, in a moment?

And they were immediately carried out and replaced with the other two sons of Aaron, without a chance of repentance or a chance morning by the parent, for the lost?

We should be thankful that GOD is merciful for now with you both, others and me, for repentance, due to CHRIST's 'interceding'.

But when the time is up, HE will punish.

You are more concerned about a human strict teacher who disciplines his stubborn and lazy students and not at all concern about your strict Holy FATHER who 'corrects' and 'chastises' (Hebrews chapter 12) HIS children and who art in Heaven as the Sovereign GOD, who have already given us the New Covenant to 'abide' and without HIM we can do 'nothing' for HIM.

Moreover, you and such women pastors imagination and establishment and those who acknowledge such, only accumulate trouble for yourselves on judgement day and be destine to hell for 'lawlessness', if this kind of carnal/fleshly mentality attitude continues and even establishes in the churches of GOD.

Thank you and may you be forgiven and be changed in spirituality by GOD in the name of LORD JESUS CHRIST.

Paul called self-righteousness as dung!

 

[Mitspa]

Tears from God "it saddens me that they argue over who should preach instead of what they preach".

This is not an argument this is a ungodly attack by these guys upon anyone who would desire to see the truth of Gods Word apart from a spirit of fear and bondage.

 

[JackH]

My ideal woman is non chafing, non confrontational, non fault-finding, non
hysterical, non door-slamming, non her-way-or-no-way, non obtuse, non
stubborn, non arrogant, non conceited, non bigoted, non deceitful, non
dishonest, non hissy fit, non profanity, non purple epithets, non potty
mouth, non shouting match, non grudging, non stone walling, non foot
stomping, non silent treatment, non face-slapping, non throwing things, non
insolent, non impudent, non irritable, non masculine, non tomboy, non
suffragette, non protestor, non demanding, non controlling, non
domineering, non independent, non glass ceiling, non sleeping around, non
shacking up, non babies out of wedlock, non naked selfie, non string bikini,
non wandering eyes, non God hating, non Bible hating, non Christianity
hating, non Christian hating, non road rage, non J-walk, non feeding parking
meters, non scofflaw, non man hating, non compete with men, non mean and
cruel to boys, non lesbian, non pro gay marriage, etc.

==================================

It should be obvious to you based upon the above that you should be married to a man.

 

[fredjames]

Well the fact is Paul told us to look to the law for guidance of how God works in the church on this issue.

What 'Law' of Apostle Paul are you talking about and where is the Scripture quote.

And everyone, 'honesty' from all of us, comes from a deceiving heart, including 'me'. But Scripture as it is written and all of them in the Holy Bible, by the Help of the HOLY SPIRIT in understanding complied as 'sound doctrine knowledge', which is SPIRIT/spiritual to the 'body of CHRIST', justifies all, to defeat the 'evidence' of carnality and it's fruits and it's form of 'opinion', thinking' and 'traditions', introduced by the 'doctrine' of ignorant men, according to the 'flesh/carnality', remain as 'babes in CHRIST', that we have been led into until today.

Please do not be deceived and because of Grace and Truth and the gifts placed in us, in 'humble' and 'humility' 'love' them and 'pray' for them and 'forgive' them.

After all, they are one of us, and we are no better than them in 'practices'.

Thank you and be blessed in the name of LORD JESUS CHRIST.

 

[JackH]

That is the most blatantly disgusting sexist, misogynistic post I've had the displeasure to read on this forum. You have unbiblically blamed the sin of the whole human race on women, specifically Eve. That doesn't even begin to line up with Scripture, or biblical teaching.

Tell me, is your ideal woman always barefoot and pregnant?

That is the same mentality that prevented women from voting in the United States on a national level until 1920 (19th Amendment).

 

[fredjames]

Paul called self-righteousness as dung!

Is 'self' righteousness of carnal/flesh and it's 'passions' and 'desires', a 'sweet smelling incense' burn in 'action faith', in the 'Temple of GOD', to GOD, and at all honoring CHRIST of the New Covenant and partly according to Galatians chapter 5 onwards?

According to the New Covenant of the 'Law of CHRIST', GOD Himself requires, 'true worshipers to worship HIM as the FATHER who art in Heaven, in 'spirit' and 'truth'.

And CHRIST have left us with these spoken and written 'Spiritual legacy' of the 'New Testament of the Kingdom of GOD', in 'one order' for us to 'abide', first in 'sound doctrine knowledge', only taught by the Helper/ Comforter/Teacher's 'Help', who is to all of us who 'believe'. the;

'HOLY SPIRIT'.

Whom i, my 'self'. am grieving HIM, in carnality/flesh everyday.

 

[elf3]

Your so called 'opinion' and elf3's 'likes', is a 'dung' of fleshly/carnality thinking and acknowledging attitudes, 'stinking' as the pattern of this world, in the Kingdom of GOD. 'Mocking' against what GOD has already established as Grace and Truth foundation through CHRIST, that is the written New Covenant, HE made with us according to mutual agreement of acceptance.

i am more frightened for you both, regarding your true Teacher, who is a 'jealous GOD' and also a 'consuming fire'. And as to you and others, may also 'think' and 'acknowledge', that there may be a little joke said, here and there, being in the Kingdom of GOD, but does no harm to anyone.

But stop and let this be a reminder and reference to all, that Aaron's sons served as priest at the altar in the Temple with Aaron, and only made one simple mistake burning incense that day, and immediately what happened unexpectedly, in a moment?

And they were immediately carried out and replaced with the other two sons of Aaron, without a chance of repentance or a chance morning by the parent, for the lost?

We should be thankful that GOD is merciful for now with you both, others and me, for repentance, due to CHRIST's 'interceding'.

But when the time is up, HE will punish.

You are more concerned about a human strict teacher who disciplines his stubborn and lazy students and not at all concern about your strict Holy FATHER who 'corrects' and 'chastises' (Hebrews chapter 12) HIS children and who art in Heaven as the Sovereign GOD, who have already given us the New Covenant to 'abide' and without HIM we can do 'nothing' for HIM.

Moreover, you and such women pastors imagination and establishment and those who acknowledge such, only accumulate trouble for yourselves on judgement day and be destine to hell for 'lawlessness', if this kind of carnal/fleshly mentality attitude continues and even establishes in the churches of GOD.

Thank you and may you be forgiven and be changed in spirituality by GOD in the name of LORD JESUS CHRIST.

Thanks skip but I rely on the Holy Spirit to teach me no matter who He uses to teach me.

 

[elf3]

This is not an argument this is a ungodly attack by these guys upon anyone who would desire to see the truth of Gods Word apart from a spirit of fear and bondage.

Yep so let's forget about Godly women and ignore any truth a woman might have. Nope only a man may preach the Gospel of Christ.

 

[Utah]

Your so called 'opinion' and elf3's 'likes', is a 'dung' of fleshly/carnality thinking and acknowledging attitudes, 'stinking' as the pattern of this world, in the Kingdom of GOD. 'Mocking' against what GOD has already established as Grace and Truth foundation through CHRIST, that is the written New Covenant, HE made with us according to mutual agreement of acceptance.

i am more frightened for you both, regarding your true Teacher, who is a 'jealous GOD' and also a 'consuming fire'. And as to you and others, may also 'think' and 'acknowledge', that there may be a little joke said, here and there, being in the Kingdom of GOD, but does no harm to anyone.

But stop and let this be a reminder and reference to all, that Aaron's sons served as priest at the altar in the Temple with Aaron, and only made one simple mistake burning incense that day, and immediately what happened unexpectedly, in a moment?

And they were immediately carried out and replaced with the other two sons of Aaron, without a chance of repentance or a chance morning by the parent, for the lost?

We should be thankful that GOD is merciful for now with you both, others and me, for repentance, due to CHRIST's 'interceding'.

But when the time is up, HE will punish.

You are more concerned about a human strict teacher who disciplines his stubborn and lazy students and not at all concern about your strict Holy FATHER who 'corrects' and 'chastises' (Hebrews chapter 12) HIS children and who art in Heaven as the Sovereign GOD, who have already given us the New Covenant to 'abide' and without HIM we can do 'nothing' for HIM.

Moreover, you and such women pastors imagination and establishment and those who acknowledge such, only accumulate trouble for yourselves on judgement day and be destine to hell for 'lawlessness', if this kind of carnal/fleshly mentality attitude continues and even establishes in the churches of GOD.

Thank you and may you be forgiven and be changed in spirituality by GOD in the name of LORD JESUS CHRIST.

You're an egotistical proponent of child abuse. From under what rock did you crawl?

Read the following and weep!

Jesus Blesses Little Children

Then they brought little children to Him, that He might touch them; but the disciples rebuked those who brought them. But when Jesus saw it, He was greatly displeased and said to them, “Let the little children come to Me, and do not forbid them; for of such is the kingdom of God. Assuredly, I say to you, whoever does not receive the kingdom of God as a little child will by no means enter it.” And He took them up in His arms, laid His hands on them, and blessed them.

And here's something else you can chew on.

Life and Judgment Are Through the Son

Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life.

I bet that just ticks you off!

 

[Utah]

Thanks skip but I rely on the Holy Spirit to teach me no matter who He uses to teach me.

Skip! LOL!

 

[notuptome]

Play nice children. Judgment begins at the house of God. If you will not submit to Gods pattern and go about to establish your own then consequences must follow.

If a day should come where the church I attend adopt a woman pastor I will be compelled to find another assembly to join. Actually if they start to go that direction I will be long gone before it happens.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[MadParrotWoman]

Play nice children. Judgment begins at the house of God. If you will not submit to Gods pattern and go about to establish your own then consequences must follow.

If a day should come where the church I attend adopt a woman pastor I will be compelled to find another assembly to join. Actually if they start to go that direction I will be long gone before it happens.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

Why? Are women not worthy? Are they lesser beings??

 

[elf3]

Skip! LOL!

Well was better than using the word "jagoff" then I would have been just the same lol