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Heb 4:6 Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:
Must be that horrible translation you have?
Heb 4:2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
I would throw that translation in the trash !
Must be that horrible translation you have?
Heb 4:2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
I would throw that translation in the trash !
Yes, what He set forth.. The Holy Spirit
. 7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth. It is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I depart, I will send Him to you. 8 And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, andof righteousness, and of judgment: 9 of sin, because they do not believe in Me; 10 of righteousness, because I go to My Father and you see Me no more; 11 of judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged.
John 14:26 — But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
Acts 1:8 — But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be witnesses to Me in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth.”
Galatians 5:22-25 — But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law. And those who are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
. 7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth. It is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I depart, I will send Him to you. 8 And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, andof righteousness, and of judgment: 9 of sin, because they do not believe in Me; 10 of righteousness, because I go to My Father and you see Me no more; 11 of judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged.
John 14:26 — But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all things that I said to you.
Acts 1:8 — But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and you shall be witnesses to Me in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth.”
Galatians 5:22-25 — But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law. And those who are Christ’s have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
Their names are found in the Bible, quite different from what you use. Now how do you get more real than the Bible? Take James, why do you think you can improve on the name given us by God in the Book of James?
Ἰάκωβος θεοῦ καὶ κυρίου Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ δοῦλος ταῖς δώδεκα φυλαῖς ταῖς ἐν τῇ διασπορᾷ χαίρειν.
The name is English letters Iakōbos, not Yaaqob. The standard English equivalent is James. How do you know that King James wanted "James" to agree with his name?
But what the King wanted is irrelevant.
The Hebrew equivalent is
Will you write
Ya -unknown guttural consonant sound-akob?
Or more accurately Ya-unknown gutteral consonant sound accompanied by a
As to this Mattithyah, I don't know where you got that one from. Last I knew the name was Matityahu in Hebrew, which was the name I was given, mostly in nickname form, when I was in Hebrew class years ago.
But I suggest to stick with the Bible and use the names as they were given in Greek when we want to be technical, but in normal use why not stick to what is the conventional English equivalent?
It seems to me that there is a kind of cultish usage of pseudo-Hebraic English versions of Bible names, not that you have advocated anything cultish here which I have read.
Ἰάκωβος θεοῦ καὶ κυρίου Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ δοῦλος ταῖς δώδεκα φυλαῖς ταῖς ἐν τῇ διασπορᾷ χαίρειν.
The name is English letters Iakōbos, not Yaaqob. The standard English equivalent is James. How do you know that King James wanted "James" to agree with his name?
But what the King wanted is irrelevant.
The Hebrew equivalent is
יַעֲקֹב. Your "Yaaqob" leaves out the ayin and it does not distinguish the
pataḥ from the h
aṭaf pataḥ. Thus since is going to be impractical for you to write the Hebrew in English anyway, and since the name is given in Greek by the Lord in the Bible, why don't you leave it that way and use the standard English equivalents, instead of trying to use the Hebrew equivalents to the Greek and then change the Hebrew to English? The Hebrews obviously did something with their throats between the two a's that you wrote in as Yaaqob. I think it is unlikely that you are going to be able to reproduce whatever they did there accurately. Also, I doubt that you will be able to reproduce the different between those 2 "a" vowels accurately either.Will you write
Ya -unknown guttural consonant sound-akob?
Or more accurately Ya-unknown gutteral consonant sound accompanied by a
h
aṭaf pataḥ vowel-akob?As to this Mattithyah, I don't know where you got that one from. Last I knew the name was Matityahu in Hebrew, which was the name I was given, mostly in nickname form, when I was in Hebrew class years ago.
But I suggest to stick with the Bible and use the names as they were given in Greek when we want to be technical, but in normal use why not stick to what is the conventional English equivalent?
It seems to me that there is a kind of cultish usage of pseudo-Hebraic English versions of Bible names, not that you have advocated anything cultish here which I have read.
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Notice the two parts of Romans 8:1;
Romans 8:1
There is therefore now no condemnation to them who are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
It says there is no condemnation for those who walk after the Spirit, not after the flesh.
And what are the works of the Spirit;
[h=1]Galatians 5:22-23[/h]22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.
Notice what it says here to, that if these are part of your life then there is no law. Because none of those would put you against the law because the law points out sin, and the fruits of the Spirit shows in righteousness. So therefore if we live in the Spirit, are walk should reflect that.
Galatians 5:25
If we live by the Spirit, let us also walk by the Spirit
Preview;
Heb 4:2, "For this message was preached to us, as well as to them; but the word which they heard did not benefit them, because they did not share in the faith of those who obeyed. "
Heb 3:16-19, "For some, when they had heard, rebelled. But not all rebelled who came out of Egypt through Mosheh. But with whom was He angry forty years? Was it not with those who sinned, whose corpses fell in the wilderness? And to whom did He vow that they would not enter into His rest, but to those who did not obey?So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief."
Heb 4:2, "For this message was preached to us, as well as to them; but the word which they heard did not benefit them, because they did not share in the faith of those who obeyed. "
Heb 3:16-19, "For some, when they had heard, rebelled. But not all rebelled who came out of Egypt through Mosheh. But with whom was He angry forty years? Was it not with those who sinned, whose corpses fell in the wilderness? And to whom did He vow that they would not enter into His rest, but to those who did not obey?So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief."
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lol.. what was works of the law?
it was honoring your parents, Not commiting adultry, loving the lord your god etc etc.
Obedience is doing what God commands, so even baptism is a work. Paul called Abrahams acts of obedience works.
If you want to twist things, then feel free.
Yes, salvation causes good works, because it is being saved from your sin which causes you to be born of the spirit to begin with. You can not be born of the spirit when you are still dead in sin.
And I quoted titus 3:5, which showed we are not saved by works of righteousness (obedient deeds) what do yu think these works are? they are not work of evil, or they would not be called works of righteousness.
it was honoring your parents, Not commiting adultry, loving the lord your god etc etc.
Obedience is doing what God commands, so even baptism is a work. Paul called Abrahams acts of obedience works.
If you want to twist things, then feel free.
Yes, salvation causes good works, because it is being saved from your sin which causes you to be born of the spirit to begin with. You can not be born of the spirit when you are still dead in sin.
And I quoted titus 3:5, which showed we are not saved by works of righteousness (obedient deeds) what do yu think these works are? they are not work of evil, or they would not be called works of righteousness.
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well I would say that's true...that's what walking in the Spirit is...the obedience of faith...but to make salvation based on a level of works to earn salvation is a false doctrine...now God gave us life in the Spirit...those who walk in the flesh do not have that life...but the scriptures never unsave a believer based on that...what they do do is unsave those who return to the law of moses and dead works...so you guys are worried about others salvations and works when you should be warning the legalist about losing there salvation ...that's what the bible teaches...not all this nonsense about an unsaved legalist trying to unsave those who are saved by grace.
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they were disobedient because they had no faith in God.
do you even WANT TO KNOW what faith is? or continue in your ignorance of the true meaning of the word?
and you still ignored the fact you are a sinner, self professed sinner. And you refuse to admit, according to the law. your still judged.
I showed you how good was good enough, and you post somethign which did not even refute it?
I feel sorry for you. Honestly. You so close, yet so far..
Now stop & think about it: How will you crucify yourself? I mean you could nail your feet; but how will you get your hand nailed? You need one hand to be nailed, another to hold the nail, & a third hand to swing the hammer.
"I have been crucified with Christ, and it no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me." Gal 2:20.
Christ was the One who was crucified. Somehow I got in on the event.
Yet often I don't seem all that crucified!
The question to ponder is,
how is it that at times a Christian indeed seems crucified with Christ; Him living in the Christian.
Yet at other times it seems quite unbelievable that Christ is living in the Christian.
Does the Christian get plugged into the cross at times & unplugged at other times?
The text goes on to say that the life lived in the flesh (concrete human existence in a body) is lived in faith in the Son of God.
"I have been crucified with Christ, and it no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me." Gal 2:20.
Christ was the One who was crucified. Somehow I got in on the event.
Yet often I don't seem all that crucified!
The question to ponder is,
how is it that at times a Christian indeed seems crucified with Christ; Him living in the Christian.
Yet at other times it seems quite unbelievable that Christ is living in the Christian.
Does the Christian get plugged into the cross at times & unplugged at other times?
The text goes on to say that the life lived in the flesh (concrete human existence in a body) is lived in faith in the Son of God.
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lets see.
One must repent and confess..( these are works).
if you do not do it enough, you are not saved (your words not mine)
And I said,
"Stop saying you can lose salvation if you do not do enough works,"
yet that is the very thing you continue to say.
Are you so blind you can not even see what your saying?
One must repent and confess..( these are works).
if you do not do it enough, you are not saved (your words not mine)
And I said,
"Stop saying you can lose salvation if you do not do enough works,"
yet that is the very thing you continue to say.
Are you so blind you can not even see what your saying?