Paul And James in Total, Complete Agreement On Works
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Jesus is speaking to His apostles. Christ chose those men for that office they did not choose themselves.
You still choose for yourself to either mind things of the flesh or things of the spirit.
Acts 26:19 "Whereupon, O king Agrippa, I was not disobedient unto the heavenly vision:"
Saul could have chosen to disobey but chose not to.
the scripture -- that is true. the one whom the Lord appointed was obedient.
your commentary that Saul could have disobeyed -- human opinion.
Jonah thought he could disobey -- what happened in the end?
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eternally-gratefull
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ok, then to remain faithful, you must have certain amount of works.
How many works are their? What is the cut off between a living faith and a dead faith we have to maintain??
Why would God begin a work in those Phillippians?
Because of "your fellowship in the gospel from the first day until now"
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eternally-gratefull
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Obey all he commands?
Hate to say it bro. but there are far more commands than this few you posted. if your going to say we have to obey all. You better start becoming perfect.
or did you not mean all??
Both Saul and Jonah had the choice to obey or not.
God has foreknowledge and knew how each would choose of his own freewill in reaction to God approaching them.
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eternally-gratefull
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amen, I do not know what some people reject the power of God. and want to do it if their own power. I would live every day in fear if i had to do it of my own power.
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eternally-gratefull
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eternally-gratefull
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remember, these lawyers seem to think they can withstand the chastening of God. and do no work.. Like jonah, Scripture is full of people who tried to resist Gods will, and were chastened into doing what God wanted (produce fruit)
WHo can withstand the chastenign of God?
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eternally-gratefull
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oh yes! He told His disciples: "you have not chosen me, but I have chosen you"
you know what else He told them?
"go and make disciples of all the nations"
doesn't this make you thankful!! and doesn't it destroy boasting of ourselves??
sheep don't choose their shepherd.
rather, the Shepherd chooses His sheep.
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eternally-gratefull
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but 'He has not given us a spirit of fear' -- and 'perfect love casts out fear'
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this should teach us something
your pal EG says there is no such thing as faith alone....but you both compromise and come to an agreement ...where in Galatians does it say.... FAITH alone SAVES.that would be contradicting scripture...[SUP]17 [/SUP]Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
we are saved by grace through faith.....so it is faith in Christ......you are just spewing your opinion....which is a false gospel...
Matthew 9:29
Then touched he their eyes, saying, According to your faith be it unto you.
Colossians 2:5
For though I be absent in the flesh, yet am I with you in the spirit, joying and beholding your order, and the stedfastness of your faith in Christ.
1 Thessalonians 1:3
Remembering without ceasing your work of faith, and labour of love, and patience of hope in our Lord Jesus Christ, in the sight of God and our Father;
could Senaccherib, the enemy of God, disobey God's will?
Because you rage against me and because your insolence has reached my ears,
I will put my hook in your nose and my bit in your mouth,
and I will make you return by the way you came.
(Isaiah 37:29)
how much more the children of God?
And I will put my Spirit within you,
and cause you to walk in my statutes and be careful to obey my rules.
(Ezekiel 36:27)
call me a "slacker" or "irresponsible" if you like, but i am praising God, and the power of His majesty!!
i cannot do otherwise in His will.
Because you rage against me and because your insolence has reached my ears,
I will put my hook in your nose and my bit in your mouth,
and I will make you return by the way you came.
(Isaiah 37:29)
how much more the children of God?
And I will put my Spirit within you,
and cause you to walk in my statutes and be careful to obey my rules.
(Ezekiel 36:27)
call me a "slacker" or "irresponsible" if you like, but i am praising God, and the power of His majesty!!
i cannot do otherwise in His will.
K
kennethcadwell
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Faith and works go hand and hand.
You can not have one without the other, and all the Apostles agree to this.
You can not say they don't matter, or you don't have to do them, because over and over again in the NT it says if you don't have works, it shows you have no truth in you, hince no salvation. Then for those who think you can not lose your salvation, Peter does not agree with you.
2 Peter 3:17
You therefore, beloved, seeing you know these things beforehand, beware lest you also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own steadfastness.
You can not have one without the other, and all the Apostles agree to this.
You can not say they don't matter, or you don't have to do them, because over and over again in the NT it says if you don't have works, it shows you have no truth in you, hince no salvation. Then for those who think you can not lose your salvation, Peter does not agree with you.
2 Peter 3:17
You therefore, beloved, seeing you know these things beforehand, beware lest you also, being led away with the error of the wicked, fall from your own steadfastness.