Well, all the posts in this thread are from N America, nearly all from the US, so I thought I'd post from the UK, N Ireland in particular. It is very rare that we get snow here in November, if we get it, it usually falls between January and March, and it usually only lies for a day or so, last March it lay for 3 weeks with me, and I was absolutely sick off it by the end of the first week. The reason for our wet and mild climate (hence why Ireland is so green) is because of the N Atlantic drift (Gulf Stream in particular).