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Hebrews 9
12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by His own blood He entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us. 13 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh; 14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
i told you - there are MANY alternatives and considerations in that 70th week - Christ's date of birth - His baptism - His Crucifixion - His Ascension - The Apostles.
i'm not about to go into every one of those because they do not CHANGE WHO STOPPED THE SACRIFICES AND OBLATION.
what matters is that the 70th week is FINISHED, and was finished by the SACRIFICE OF CHRIST ALMIGHTY AND HIS ACCEPTANCE BY GOD.
you can insert gaps and attribut it to SATAN all you want to.
i'll have no part with you in it.
if you are willing to consider the FOLLY of your gap theory, the details of the Greatest Event in History this side of the Second Coming can be discussed. you are not willing because you believe in another gospel.
Hebrews 9
12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by His own blood He entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us. 13 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh; 14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
i told you - there are MANY alternatives and considerations in that 70th week - Christ's date of birth - His baptism - His Crucifixion - His Ascension - The Apostles.
i'm not about to go into every one of those because they do not CHANGE WHO STOPPED THE SACRIFICES AND OBLATION.
what matters is that the 70th week is FINISHED, and was finished by the SACRIFICE OF CHRIST ALMIGHTY AND HIS ACCEPTANCE BY GOD.
you can insert gaps and attribut it to SATAN all you want to.
i'll have no part with you in it.
if you are willing to consider the FOLLY of your gap theory, the details of the Greatest Event in History this side of the Second Coming can be discussed. you are not willing because you believe in another gospel.
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We are not just speaking of a "plot of land"...we are speaking of the land which belongs to God...not to the Jews, Muslims, Arabs or any race of people, but to God alone. We love Israel because it is God's land and He has shown His love to His people. Who are you to question God's choice?
Leviticus 25:23 The land shall not be sold for ever: for the land is mine; for ye are strangers and sojourners with me.
Deuteronomy 7:6 For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.
Deuteronomy 7:7 The LORD did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people; for ye were the fewest of all people:
Deuteronomy 7:8 But because the LORD loved you, and because he would keep the oath which he had sworn unto your fathers, hath the LORD brought you out with a mighty hand, and redeemed you out of the house of bondmen, from the hand of Pharaoh king of Egypt.
Deuteronomy 14:2 For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God, and the LORD hath chosen thee to be a peculiar people unto himself, above all the nations that are upon the earth.
2 Samuel 7:12 And when thy days be fulfilled, and thou shalt sleep with thy fathers, I will set up thy seed after thee, which shall proceed out of thy bowels, and I will establish his kingdom.
2 Samuel 7:13 He shall build an house for my name, and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever.
2 Samuel 7:14 I will be his father, and he shall be my son. If he commit iniquity, I will chasten him with the rod of men, and with the stripes of the children of men:
2 Samuel 7:15 But my mercy shall not depart away from him, as I took it from Saul, whom I put away before thee.
2 Samuel 7:16 And thine house and thy kingdom shall be established for ever before thee: thy throne shall be established for ever.
So you can continue to accuse those who "show undying love for the plot of land" as being "full of anti-semitism and hate for Muslim and Arab countries around the state of Israel". Once again, you are clueless about what is really going on in the Middle East and have no knowledge about antisemitism.
This is not some "political" war. Israel, whether they are aware of it or not, has been in a "spiritual" battle since the time of Ishmael and Isaac.
Leviticus 25:23 The land shall not be sold for ever: for the land is mine; for ye are strangers and sojourners with me.
Deuteronomy 7:6 For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.
Deuteronomy 7:7 The LORD did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people; for ye were the fewest of all people:
Deuteronomy 7:8 But because the LORD loved you, and because he would keep the oath which he had sworn unto your fathers, hath the LORD brought you out with a mighty hand, and redeemed you out of the house of bondmen, from the hand of Pharaoh king of Egypt.
Deuteronomy 14:2 For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God, and the LORD hath chosen thee to be a peculiar people unto himself, above all the nations that are upon the earth.
2 Samuel 7:12 And when thy days be fulfilled, and thou shalt sleep with thy fathers, I will set up thy seed after thee, which shall proceed out of thy bowels, and I will establish his kingdom.
2 Samuel 7:13 He shall build an house for my name, and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever.
2 Samuel 7:14 I will be his father, and he shall be my son. If he commit iniquity, I will chasten him with the rod of men, and with the stripes of the children of men:
2 Samuel 7:15 But my mercy shall not depart away from him, as I took it from Saul, whom I put away before thee.
2 Samuel 7:16 And thine house and thy kingdom shall be established for ever before thee: thy throne shall be established for ever.
So you can continue to accuse those who "show undying love for the plot of land" as being "full of anti-semitism and hate for Muslim and Arab countries around the state of Israel". Once again, you are clueless about what is really going on in the Middle East and have no knowledge about antisemitism.
This is not some "political" war. Israel, whether they are aware of it or not, has been in a "spiritual" battle since the time of Ishmael and Isaac.
J
Before I go further, do you know what semitism or a Semite is? Secondly, do you know that Aramaic and Arabic are sister languages??? While I may "have no knowledge about antisemitism," I know the definition of the word semitism and Semite itself.
Now,
Continuing the portion of Deuteronomy that you cut off
That sounds pretty conditional to me.
Peculiar people? This is what God said about the peculiar people in Exodus:
Wow, now let us fast forward that to what was said in the New Testament about believers:
Now, to you using 2 Samuel
Now, if this is not a political situation, that mean that the State of Israel wouldn't have been created by political means, which it was. Also, how could Israel be in a spiritual battle since the time of Ishmael and Isaac when there was no Israel. Even then, if that is the case, where does that leave the Seed of Abraham?
Now,
Continuing the portion of Deuteronomy that you cut off
That sounds pretty conditional to me.
Peculiar people? This is what God said about the peculiar people in Exodus:
Wow, now let us fast forward that to what was said in the New Testament about believers:
Now, to you using 2 Samuel
Now, if this is not a political situation, that mean that the State of Israel wouldn't have been created by political means, which it was. Also, how could Israel be in a spiritual battle since the time of Ishmael and Isaac when there was no Israel. Even then, if that is the case, where does that leave the Seed of Abraham?
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J
In other words, Ms. Linda has no biblical response to the scripture that I set forth. If anyone sees anything antisemitic in my posting, please point it out but as it stands, there is none. According to scripture, I treat everyone equally because God is no respecter of person. I love one that practices Judaism the same way I love one that practices Islam the same way I love Ms. Linda. I presented scripture and I was called antisemitic; where is the sense or logic in that? Ms. Linda doesn't have to reply to anything I wrote but fact remains, I was called antisemitic for no reason at all.
I don't adhere to all of these names given to types of theology. Personally, I'm not the biggest fan of theology because man has over intellectualized God's word. I really have no idea what Preterist is, I just read the word for what it says and refuse to twist into something that it isn't.
Ms. Linda presented scripture, and I presented scripture showing that it was conditional and not exclusive. God's spiritual gift to the Children of Israel is irrevocable and that leads to the mystery. If you read the word of God without any kind of shades, you could clearly read that Paul said the great mystery that was hidden from Old Testament prophets was:
This speaks nothing of a church age or a separate physical covenant. In John 5, Jesus said that Scripture testify of Him. The law is fulfilled in Jesus. I'm sorry that you felt like you had to block me but I'm even more sorry that it seems like your theology is not as Christ-centric as it should be.
I don't adhere to all of these names given to types of theology. Personally, I'm not the biggest fan of theology because man has over intellectualized God's word. I really have no idea what Preterist is, I just read the word for what it says and refuse to twist into something that it isn't.
Ms. Linda presented scripture, and I presented scripture showing that it was conditional and not exclusive. God's spiritual gift to the Children of Israel is irrevocable and that leads to the mystery. If you read the word of God without any kind of shades, you could clearly read that Paul said the great mystery that was hidden from Old Testament prophets was:
This speaks nothing of a church age or a separate physical covenant. In John 5, Jesus said that Scripture testify of Him. The law is fulfilled in Jesus. I'm sorry that you felt like you had to block me but I'm even more sorry that it seems like your theology is not as Christ-centric as it should be.
L
2 Timothy 2:23 But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes.
2 Timothy 2:24 And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient,
2 Timothy 2:25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;
2 Timothy 2:26 And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.
2 Timothy 2:24 And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient,
2 Timothy 2:25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;
2 Timothy 2:26 And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.
B
The promise is the promise of the Spirit. The Gentiles are fellow heirs with those of Israel (Jews) who believe and this is the mystery of Christ revealed in the dispensation of grace that was given by revelation to the apostle Paul, which WAS NOT MADE KNOWN to the sons of men in other age (or dispensation) as it is now been revealed by the Spirit to his holy apostles and prophets. The mystery is the Jew and Gentile both having the promise of the Spirit through Christ.
R
by the way...in support of the assertion that eschatology and dispensationalism should -not- be presented as salvation issues...i will quote from an official policy statement of this site...
"Timing of end times events isn't an essential."
http://christianchat.com/bible-disc...eated-discussions-please-read.html#post117444
"Timing of end times events isn't an essential."
http://christianchat.com/bible-disc...eated-discussions-please-read.html#post117444
B
You have this spiteful spirit that loves to get people's goat. I suppose you think its from God and is justified. What good purpose does it serve and what do you hope to accomplish in the will of God? Your a grown woman that sounds like a teenager who can't have their way. You have to grow up sometime and speak to others without mocking and ripping their heads off or laying some guilt trip on them. If you were my sister I would be telling you the same. When you can, put a muzzle on it.