Churches that Don't Allow Tongues and Prophecy in Meetings disobey Bible
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Your asking people to share with you names of people they know personally, over the Internet, who prophesy or have done miracles, allegedly so you can 'test' them. We see how you 'test' things. You just reject them without testing them. When you use scripture, often it's with poor logic, like taking a verse about replacing the Twelve and arguing that it applies to all apostles, though that would exclude Paul, also. I suppose I could dig up a video of a prophecy. But what would you do? Ridicule? Reject without any Biblical basis? Dismiss it out of hand? Despise prophesying? If you can accept what the scriptures say first without excuses, it might make sense for someone to post some links for you. But why should they otherwise? We could even consider it fodder for temptation.
Now the denominational movements are more hurtful to the churches because of little discipline to the word there are no development of the giftings due to many factors leaving the five fold office empty like the apostle the prophet the evangelist the pastor and teacher i am able to teach the five offices for the chosen yes only the chosen can take these offices to make an efficient running church .now ill give you an example of the few errors in the gospel , lets look at the prophet the prophet can give error messagez but the cause can be as simpe as anuunleaventh mind or the preacher also with the unleaventh mind is the main cause apart from very litle prayer.
The fivefold ministry or five-fold ministry is a Charismatic and Evangelical Christian belief that five offices mentioned in Ephesians (Ephesians 4:11), namely that of apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors (or "shepherds") and teachers, remain active and valid offices in the contemporary Christian church.
Non-charismatic Christians may also consider these roles, and others, active and valid, but the term "fivefold ministry" is particularly associated with Pentecostal beliefs. Adherents of this ecclesiology may also affirm the continuation of the charismatic gifts in the modern church, or may hold to the concept of a "Latter Rain" outpouring of Holy Spirit gifts, while opponents commonly hold to cessationist beliefs.
Fivefold ministry - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
use the footnotes.
"while opponents commonly hold to cessationist beliefs." < these would be your Jezebel Spirits who are at war with the "prophets".
Non-charismatic Christians may also consider these roles, and others, active and valid, but the term "fivefold ministry" is particularly associated with Pentecostal beliefs. Adherents of this ecclesiology may also affirm the continuation of the charismatic gifts in the modern church, or may hold to the concept of a "Latter Rain" outpouring of Holy Spirit gifts, while opponents commonly hold to cessationist beliefs.
Fivefold ministry - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
use the footnotes.
"while opponents commonly hold to cessationist beliefs." < these would be your Jezebel Spirits who are at war with the "prophets".
To know how to develop the giftings but the scripture say He that does not help me gather is against me i am for the edifying of the body of christ not this mindless arguing i am seeing i see this from the jehovas witneses i detest this if you do not wish to be edifying but simply contradict every point i dont know what to tell you but jesus loves you
K
Look, I believe in Jesus. He saved me. But, then I found out that I could receive the Holy Spirit. I sought Him and the next thing I knew I was speaking in tongues. Afterward the scripture opened up to me as never before. I fell in love with the word. I began to read it as if it was the best novel ever written. Jesus became more real to me than ever before. When I lay hands on people and begin to pray, tongues come automatically. I wonder if in your church if you practice the laying on of hands. It is biblical. Yet, you don't do it. Tongues are a gift. If you are against tongues, then you must analyse your ground. Satan has always tried to stop tongues and many churches are helping him. You cannot deny that it is biblical.
you don't need prophets or apostles to proclaim the Gospel - THEY ALREADY WROTE IT DOWN. under inspiration.
faith comes by hearing - and hearing by the WORD OF GOD (the written word preached - the inspired written word).
2 Timothy 3
All Scripture Is Breathed Out by God
10You, however, have followed my teaching, my conduct, my aim in life, my faith, my patience, my love, my steadfastness, 11my persecutions and sufferings that happened to me at Antioch, at Iconium, and at Lystra—which persecutions I endured; yet from them all the Lord rescued me. 12Indeed, all who desire to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted, 13while evil people and impostors will go on from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived. 14But as for you, continue in what you have learned and have firmly believed, knowing from whoma you learned it 15and how from childhood you have been acquainted with the sacred writings, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. 16All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, 17that the man of Godb may be competent, equipped for every good work.
nope - don't need prophets.
it's all written.
The Spirit and the Word can be trusted.
faith comes by hearing - and hearing by the WORD OF GOD (the written word preached - the inspired written word).
2 Timothy 3
All Scripture Is Breathed Out by God
10You, however, have followed my teaching, my conduct, my aim in life, my faith, my patience, my love, my steadfastness, 11my persecutions and sufferings that happened to me at Antioch, at Iconium, and at Lystra—which persecutions I endured; yet from them all the Lord rescued me. 12Indeed, all who desire to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted, 13while evil people and impostors will go on from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived. 14But as for you, continue in what you have learned and have firmly believed, knowing from whoma you learned it 15and how from childhood you have been acquainted with the sacred writings, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. 16All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, 17that the man of Godb may be competent, equipped for every good work.
nope - don't need prophets.
it's all written.
The Spirit and the Word can be trusted.