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The Lord leads. Waiting is perfect, I think, I'm still waiting. And, if haven't, that's OK, too, of course, He Loves us for MUCH more than that sin, we all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Christ died for ALL sinners.
But, yes, ressurectedtoLife, he is saying good words, I don't want to taint them, but, just live in Him, He is in you and mistakes we have made are THROWN into the sea of forgetfulness and gone, gone, gone, in His mind, so, make them gone in yours
WE are just , when we sin,to DO what God said to Mary Magdalene and the Pharasees who accused this lady of her sin (of adultery).
Jesus said when they accused Mary M. , "Whoever is without sin cast the first stone."
Out of the whole gaggle of men, not one could say they were without sin, they knew. We ALL know. We ALL have sin, but, the precious blood of Jesus covers ALL our sins, past, present, future, when we give THEM to Him 1 John 1:9
But, after the men all scattered, Jesus said to Mary M. who likely wondered what Jesus was going to say to her. "Neither do I condemn , go and sin no more. " And , here are the verses that let us know that we are, indeed, covered by His Love, by His blood
The Lord leads, we will fall many times in life, in many ways, and, God will be there EVERY time to pick us up, when we sin.
Oh how He Loves you and me
[video=youtube;LmtFxnQsl6Q]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmtFxnQsl6Q[/video]
Because He Loves us. Scripture says too ,regarding the 'cast' word, 'Cast all you cares on Him, for He cares for you." 1 Peter 3:7
But, yes, ressurectedtoLife, he is saying good words, I don't want to taint them, but, just live in Him, He is in you and mistakes we have made are THROWN into the sea of forgetfulness and gone, gone, gone, in His mind, so, make them gone in yours
WE are just , when we sin,to DO what God said to Mary Magdalene and the Pharasees who accused this lady of her sin (of adultery).
Jesus said when they accused Mary M. , "Whoever is without sin cast the first stone."
Out of the whole gaggle of men, not one could say they were without sin, they knew. We ALL know. We ALL have sin, but, the precious blood of Jesus covers ALL our sins, past, present, future, when we give THEM to Him 1 John 1:9
But, after the men all scattered, Jesus said to Mary M. who likely wondered what Jesus was going to say to her. "Neither do I condemn , go and sin no more. " And , here are the verses that let us know that we are, indeed, covered by His Love, by His blood
The Lord leads, we will fall many times in life, in many ways, and, God will be there EVERY time to pick us up, when we sin.
Oh how He Loves you and me
[video=youtube;LmtFxnQsl6Q]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmtFxnQsl6Q[/video]
Because He Loves us. Scripture says too ,regarding the 'cast' word, 'Cast all you cares on Him, for He cares for you." 1 Peter 3:7
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ok, then how about people who already lost it before they got saved/married? are they less valuable than those who are still keeping it? c'mon now.. you're just like my mom/dad, i really don't like this kind of thought.. but don't get it twisted though, i'm not saying that losing your virginity before marriage is ok.
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Yes,zaoofmen. we are to cleave to that which is good, holy, and, His for us. We know what that is, do we want to focus our mind on those spiritual things is the question.
When we see a topic like this, we should affix our thoughts on spiritual things:
If we focus our minds on Earthly things, then, that is what will drain into our mind, yet, if we focus on spiritual things then that is what will drain into our mind and with the incoming of spiritual becomes the outgoing of eathly thought of 'world' things, more and more. I think of it as a cup of water full of earthly things. And, when we accept Christ, it takes time, and, choices but we do want spiritual things more, if we are of God's Spirit in us--and you are IF you have chosen Him, accepted the Holy Spirit, simply, by faith Then, we will crave more and more spiritual things into our life, and, as those 'things' pour in the cup of water drains out the earthly things until only the new, spiritual is in there, mostly in there, let's say, because we are not perfect and never will be perfect. Only one was ever perfect on Earth, Jesus
When we see a topic like this, we should affix our thoughts on spiritual things:
If we focus our minds on Earthly things, then, that is what will drain into our mind, yet, if we focus on spiritual things then that is what will drain into our mind and with the incoming of spiritual becomes the outgoing of eathly thought of 'world' things, more and more. I think of it as a cup of water full of earthly things. And, when we accept Christ, it takes time, and, choices but we do want spiritual things more, if we are of God's Spirit in us--and you are IF you have chosen Him, accepted the Holy Spirit, simply, by faith
Then, we will crave more and more spiritual things into our life, and, as those 'things' pour in the cup of water drains out the earthly things until only the new, spiritual is in there, mostly in there, let's say, because we are not perfect and never will be perfect. Only one was ever perfect on Earth, Jesus 
The thing that should be more important to us is our relationship with Jesus. If we get this straight, by His grace, fear of giving in to the other thing will be a non-issue.
While I agree that it is a good thing to do, I kind of feel like these kinds of threads set a negative tone to folks who have given in and need support from their brothers and sisters.
While I agree that it is a good thing to do, I kind of feel like these kinds of threads set a negative tone to folks who have given in and need support from their brothers and sisters.
I might be seen as evil for doing this, but I personally feel that when OP's write threads like this, they should also share their own story with the rest of us.
So, when writing a thread about such a topic as an original poster, please tell us:
1. Were you a virgin when you got married, if you ever did marry? If so, how did you manage to stay pure and what practical tips do you have for the rest of us?
2. If you weren't or aren't a virgin, what caused you to stray and what did you learn that you can share with the rest of us about getting back on track?
It may be just me, but I feel it's unfair to make statements about what the rest of us need to be doing (even if they're Biblical, and even if they're well-intended) without telling us about yourself first.
That's why my threads are so dang long. I try not to post a thread unless I can share something relevant from my own life. Not that it's a necessity, of course... But there is too much talking without the walking and we need to know your walk before we'll listen to the talk.
Just my own opinion though.
So, when writing a thread about such a topic as an original poster, please tell us:
1. Were you a virgin when you got married, if you ever did marry? If so, how did you manage to stay pure and what practical tips do you have for the rest of us?
2. If you weren't or aren't a virgin, what caused you to stray and what did you learn that you can share with the rest of us about getting back on track?
It may be just me, but I feel it's unfair to make statements about what the rest of us need to be doing (even if they're Biblical, and even if they're well-intended) without telling us about yourself first.
That's why my threads are so dang long. I try not to post a thread unless I can share something relevant from my own life. Not that it's a necessity, of course... But there is too much talking without the walking and we need to know your walk before we'll listen to the talk.
Just my own opinion though.
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I'm not the OP, but i was a virgin when I got married, and I thought I'd share some of the ways I stayed a virgin.
First of all, I did not date in high school. I wasn't exactly shy, but I was about the whole topic of dating, maybe the result of being teased a bit by my mom in my early teen years. Also, I was picky about looks and was looking for a serious believer with similar beliefs to my own. I never really found anyone that fit my criteria. Not dating helps prevent temptation. Aside from a couple of sort of dates in college and immediately after, I didn't start dating until I hit maybe 22 or 23. I did not date much.
I tried to be careful with my hands, and sought to avoid fornication. I did kiss, something I probably wouldn't have done if I had it to do over.
I also studied the Bible intensely growing up, memorizing books of scripture as a part of a teen Bible quiz program. I also read the Old Testament. Studying about two being one flesh helped me. Seeing that if a man took a girl's virginity in the Old Testament helped me. Studying about a death penalty for virgin girls who lost their virginity and were married off with virgins in the Old Testament helped me. Knowing that adultery was a death penalty crime in the Old Testament helped me. The passage in I Corinthians 6, that fornicators do not inherit the kingdom of God, and that he who fornicates sins against his own body helped me.
What if I were to fornicate with a girl, and then felt that to do the right thing before God, I should marry her. Would I really want to choose a woman for life based on lust? What if she did not want to marry and I had no access to my child? What if I had a one-night stand, and there was some child out there who was mine that I never got to know? If I were made one flesh with some girl I went out with, would I feel free to marry someone else? If I took a woman's virginity and did not marry her, that would be a terrible thing to do to her. And if she'd been joined sexually with another man, should I be joined with her?
All of these thoughts reinforced the idea for me that I should remain a virgin until marriage.
My study of the word led me to be anti-divorce, and I was looking for a woman who wouldn't divorce me that I could be married to for life. That's an important criteria. Don't marry someone with wishy-washy ideas about divorce.
First of all, I did not date in high school. I wasn't exactly shy, but I was about the whole topic of dating, maybe the result of being teased a bit by my mom in my early teen years. Also, I was picky about looks and was looking for a serious believer with similar beliefs to my own. I never really found anyone that fit my criteria. Not dating helps prevent temptation. Aside from a couple of sort of dates in college and immediately after, I didn't start dating until I hit maybe 22 or 23. I did not date much.
I tried to be careful with my hands, and sought to avoid fornication. I did kiss, something I probably wouldn't have done if I had it to do over.
I also studied the Bible intensely growing up, memorizing books of scripture as a part of a teen Bible quiz program. I also read the Old Testament. Studying about two being one flesh helped me. Seeing that if a man took a girl's virginity in the Old Testament helped me. Studying about a death penalty for virgin girls who lost their virginity and were married off with virgins in the Old Testament helped me. Knowing that adultery was a death penalty crime in the Old Testament helped me. The passage in I Corinthians 6, that fornicators do not inherit the kingdom of God, and that he who fornicates sins against his own body helped me.
What if I were to fornicate with a girl, and then felt that to do the right thing before God, I should marry her. Would I really want to choose a woman for life based on lust? What if she did not want to marry and I had no access to my child? What if I had a one-night stand, and there was some child out there who was mine that I never got to know? If I were made one flesh with some girl I went out with, would I feel free to marry someone else? If I took a woman's virginity and did not marry her, that would be a terrible thing to do to her. And if she'd been joined sexually with another man, should I be joined with her?
All of these thoughts reinforced the idea for me that I should remain a virgin until marriage.
My study of the word led me to be anti-divorce, and I was looking for a woman who wouldn't divorce me that I could be married to for life. That's an important criteria. Don't marry someone with wishy-washy ideas about divorce.
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Excellently well said, wise wisdom, I think, in these words by elpresidente.
Also, the idea of 'I' can be good, but it MUST be laced with 'Him,' too, we have no power of ourserlf to keep from sex before marriage, but, with Him, we have aLL the power we need. We are not able on our own to keep from doing things, we must pray constantly to God for keeping us out of situations that will compromise our ability to stay out of trouble with a girl, if dating, or, if not dating and just going out and doing things. I am confident that God has protected me more than once in situations where a girl has become attracted to me and I to her and I knew it was not right and I just let the Lord lead my flesh through things with His Spirit overriding that in me by Him in me
Also, the idea of 'I' can be good, but it MUST be laced with 'Him,' too, we have no power of ourserlf to keep from sex before marriage, but, with Him, we have aLL the power we need. We are not able on our own to keep from doing things, we must pray constantly to God for keeping us out of situations that will compromise our ability to stay out of trouble with a girl, if dating, or, if not dating and just going out and doing things. I am confident that God has protected me more than once in situations where a girl has become attracted to me and I to her and I knew it was not right and I just let the Lord lead my flesh through things with His Spirit overriding that in me by Him in me
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Look at all the people getting defensive you get props from everyone else in society for all the sex you have CAN I GET SOMETHING TO BE HAPPY ABOUT? No seriously being a virgin sucks even in this forum I'm in the minority. I might as well lose it to a hooker so I can be like all the rest of the people in this forum saying "wait god doesn't really think your better for that" well god doesn't think your any better for not smoking or drinking there.
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Thanks for reiterating the point.
I do understand.
I was raised in church, so I realize this is God's rule. However, and this is probably just a personal pet peeve of mine, after a lifetime of hearing "the rules", I've just grown weary of people who stand behind iron curtains while "preaching the Word."
I always gravitate towards people who are actually willing to share their trials and triumphs while reminding us of Biblical principles rather than performing "Wizard of Oz"-type bellowings...
But, again, it's just my own opinion.
It doesn't take much to share a principle. It takes a lot more to share yourself.
I do understand.
I was raised in church, so I realize this is God's rule. However, and this is probably just a personal pet peeve of mine, after a lifetime of hearing "the rules", I've just grown weary of people who stand behind iron curtains while "preaching the Word."
I always gravitate towards people who are actually willing to share their trials and triumphs while reminding us of Biblical principles rather than performing "Wizard of Oz"-type bellowings...
But, again, it's just my own opinion.
It doesn't take much to share a principle. It takes a lot more to share yourself.
My advice in the original post was sound. It was meant to help single people who haven't lost their virginity yet.
I wish I would have held on to mine. Those of us who gave up our virginity, without first marrying, have serious challenges to deal with afterwards. Otherwise, the Lord wouldn't have commanded us not to fornicate.
I wish I would have held on to mine. Those of us who gave up our virginity, without first marrying, have serious challenges to deal with afterwards. Otherwise, the Lord wouldn't have commanded us not to fornicate.