Hitler the seventh head of the beast

[ewq1938]

The 8th head is the false prophet (beast of the earth).

There are only 7 heads and they are mountains not people. Perhaps you meant the 8th King in Revelation 17's 8 successive kings?

Rev 17:10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
Rev 17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

 

[Rondonmon]

A prophecy is always in the future. Seeing the past is called history.
Rev 22:6And he said unto me, These sayings are faithful and true: and the Lord God of the holy prophets sent his angel to shew unto his servants the things which must shortly be done. 7Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book.

Both Daniel and John are Prophets.

No conjecturing needed. The 8th head is the false prophet (beast of the earth).
There are 7 heads enumerated in Daniel 7. The characteristics of Rev 13 beast links it back to Daniel 7 description of babylon, medo-persia, greece(cassander), seleucid(seleucus), egypt(ptolemy),asia minor(lysimachus) and rome. What happened to rome? In 330 AD, constantinople was made the seat of the eastern empire. Where is constantinople? In Asia minor - lysimachus. How long did the byzantine civilization last? ~1500 AD.

Daniel only spoke of nations and tyrants as pertaining to jews (chosen people of God) while John spoke of nations and tyrants as pertaining to Christians (faithful in Christ).

This is not true per se. What people don't get is the bible proves all of these things out. Many times God gives us Prophesies then helps paint the picture with PAST EVENTS. For example, when was Jesus born before John received the Rev. 12 revelation or after? Before of course, thus when Rev. 12 PAINTS the picture of the Woman (Israel) fleeing from Satan the Dragon in the END TIMES it tells of Jesus birth at the exact same time, thus there is no difference from that Prophecy and the Rev. 13 Prophecy which also looks backwards in time WHILST painting the picture in both cases of a FUTURE EVENT. Rev. 12 is about Israel FLEEING Judea and Rev. 13 is about the END TIME Anti-Christ Beast arising, but both show PAST EVENTS also in order to paint the full picture.

The 8th head is Apollyon, its not even debatable, the Scarlet Colored Beast in Rev. 17 is Apollyon, go read Rev. 9, the Demon who arises from the pit is Apollyon, the king of the pit. He later kills the Two-witness in Rev. 11. His name as called by Israel means The Destroyer, thus that was his job, thus he was paced by Satan over Israel and the whole Mediterranean Sea Region.

The False Prophet is not a king at all, he's a Religious Leader MAN on this earth. He takes the place of the Harlot (AL FALSE RELIGION) that gets killed off. He will be a Jewish High Priest gone rogue. Rev. 17 clearly tells us this Demon that arises is THAT KING, men don't arise from the pit.

There are not 7 Heads in Dan., the Four Generals are NOT HEADS, they are Four Generals. The 7 Heads over Israel are not that hard t understand brother, you are just in tunnel vision mode on this aspect.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

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You should consider only what is the Scriptures. Conjectures are add to the scriptures. Forbidden.

yea that’s why I don’t agree with all your explanation there none of it is in scripture it’s all Pure conjecture to understand it one needs to take all the information from Daniel 2 , Daniel 7 , revelation 13 and 17

plus a few more areas but just those offer ot of understanding out the even headed beast and the ten horns and eighth king.

this dream of nebucadnezzar about four kingdoms is what founds the visions later of the four kingdoms and seven kings

Thou, O king, art a king of kings: for the God of heaven hath given thee a kingdom, power, and strength, and glory. And wheresoever the children of men dwell, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the heaven hath he given into thine hand, and hath made thee ruler over them all. Thou art this head of gold. And after thee shall arise another kingdom inferior to thee, and another third kingdom of brass, which shall bear rule over all the earth.


And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron: forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and subdueth all things: and as iron that breaketh all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise.”
‭‭Daniel‬ ‭2:37-40‬ ‭KJV‬

that leads into this

And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another. The first was like a lion, and had eagle's wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to it.

And behold another beast, a second, like to a bear, and it raised up itself on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and they said thus unto it, Arise, devour much flesh.



After this I beheld, and lo another, like a leopard, which had upon the back of it four wings of a fowl; the beast had also four heads; and dominion was given to it.



After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.”

‭‭Daniel‬ ‭7:3-7‬ ‭KJV‬‬

and that’s explained further here

These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth.



Then I would know the truth of the fourth beast, which was diverse from all the others, exceeding dreadful, whose teeth were of iron, and his nails of brass; which devoured, brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with his feet; And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell;



even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows. I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them; Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.

And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings. And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.”

‭‭Daniel‬ ‭7:17, 19-21, 23-25‬ ‭KJV‬

and that holds details for understanding this

And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, ( 6th) and the other is not yet come; ( 7th) and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.



And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition. And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.”

‭‭Revelation‬ ‭17:10-12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

and this

And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority. And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven. And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. If any man have an ear, let him hear.”

‭‭Revelation‬ ‭13:1-3, 5-9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Daniel 2 is where the vision and revelation begins to be shown and throughout scripture it expands in detail
And understanding

 

[ResidentAlien]

I've uncovered some truly remarkable things about the Third Reich and Hitler I was unaware of before. To Hitler, Greek and Roman culture embodied the highest ideals; ideals which he believed Germany should learn from and emulate.

The reason it's remarkable is because Greece and Rome were two previous heads of the beast; Rome of course being the sixth head, the one that "now is" in Revelation.

There's a lot of information available about Hitler's admiration of Greek and Roman culture, but probably the best source to go to is the horse's mouth:

"It is a characteristic of our materialistic epoch that our scientific education shows a growing emphasis on what is real and practical: such subjects, for instance, as applied mathematics, physics, chemistry, etc. Of course they are necessary in an age that is dominated by industrial technology and chemistry, and where everyday life shows at least the external manifestations of these. But it is a perilous thing to base the general culture of a nation on the knowledge of these subjects. On the contrary, that general culture ought always to be directed towards ideals. It ought to be founded on the humanist disciplines and should aim at giving only the ground work of further specialized instruction in the various practical sciences. Otherwise we should sacrifice those forces that are more important for the preservation of the nation than any technical knowledge. In the historical department the study of ancient history should not be omitted. Roman history, along general lines, is and will remain the best teacher, not only for our own time but also for the future. And the ideal of Hellenic [Greek] culture should be preserved for us in all its marvellous beauty. The differences between the various peoples should not prevent us from recognizing the community of race which unites them on a higher plane. The conflict of our times is one that is being waged around great objectives. A civilization is fighting for its existence. It is a civilization that is the product of thousands of years of historical development, and the Greek as well as the German forms part of it."—Mein Kampf, James Murphy translation, 1940, pg. 341​

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He's saying here that Germany is united with Greece and Rome on the higher plane of race. The same race that created the greatness of Greece and Rome is also that of Germany. Whether or not there's any truth in it I don't know; but that's what he believed.

Hitler saw Germany as the continuation of ancient Rome, and Greece before it. Thus we have a link of Germany with Rome and Greece; and with two of the previous heads.

 

[ewq1938]

The reason it's remarkable is because Greece and Rome were two previous heads of the beast; Rome of course being the sixth head, the one that "now is" in Revelation.

The Revelation 13 beast rises with all 7 heads proving the heads are not past powers like Rome and Greece. The 6th head was not Rome. The heads are mountains on which the ten horns/kingdoms are established.


Rev 17:10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.

You are confusing heads of the Revelation 13 beast with the 8 kings that come and go one by one. Rome was the 6th king/kingdom that was falling in John's time. The next king would be the 7th and that would match the Revelation 13:1 beast but it was future and would only continue a short space which matches the short 42 months.

 

[LactoseIntolerant]

There are only 7 heads and they are mountains not people. Perhaps you meant the 8th King in Revelation 17's 8 successive kings?

Rev 17:10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
Rev 17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

The mountains are imperial seats. All of them are mentioned because they are in spiritual conflict with God egged on by the dragon. The last "imperial" seat of the false prophet is the 8th head.
There are eight heads in Revelation, all from beasties. John wrote this during roman occupation and 8 heads are to be burnt before the dragon. It is consistent with the bible.

 

[LactoseIntolerant]

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yea that’s why I don’t agree with all your explanation there none of it is in scripture it’s all Pure conjecture to understand it one needs to take all the information from Daniel 2 , Daniel 7 , revelation 13 and 17

plus a few more areas but just those offer ot of understanding out the even headed beast and the ten horns and eighth king.

this dream of nebucadnezzar about four kingdoms is what founds the visions later of the four kingdoms and seven kings

Thou, O king, art a king of kings: for the God of heaven hath given thee a kingdom, power, and strength, and glory. And wheresoever the children of men dwell, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the heaven hath he given into thine hand, and hath made thee ruler over them all. Thou art this head of gold. And after thee shall arise another kingdom inferior to thee, and another third kingdom of brass, which shall bear rule over all the earth.


And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron: forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and subdueth all things: and as iron that breaketh all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise.”
‭‭Daniel‬ ‭2:37-40‬ ‭KJV‬

that leads into this

And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another. The first was like a lion, and had eagle's wings: I beheld till the wings thereof were plucked, and it was lifted up from the earth, and made stand upon the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to it.

And behold another beast, a second, like to a bear, and it raised up itself on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and they said thus unto it, Arise, devour much flesh.



After this I beheld, and lo another, like a leopard, which had upon the back of it four wings of a fowl; the beast had also four heads; and dominion was given to it.



After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.”

‭‭Daniel‬ ‭7:3-7‬ ‭KJV‬‬

and that’s explained further here

These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth.



Then I would know the truth of the fourth beast, which was diverse from all the others, exceeding dreadful, whose teeth were of iron, and his nails of brass; which devoured, brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with his feet; And of the ten horns that were in his head, and of the other which came up, and before whom three fell;



even of that horn that had eyes, and a mouth that spake very great things, whose look was more stout than his fellows. I beheld, and the same horn made war with the saints, and prevailed against them; Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.

And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings. And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.”

‭‭Daniel‬ ‭7:17, 19-21, 23-25‬ ‭KJV‬

and that holds details for understanding this

And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, ( 6th) and the other is not yet come; ( 7th) and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.



And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition. And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.”

‭‭Revelation‬ ‭17:10-12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

and this

And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority. And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven. And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. If any man have an ear, let him hear.”

‭‭Revelation‬ ‭13:1-3, 5-9‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Daniel 2 is where the vision and revelation begins to be shown and throughout scripture it expands in detail
And understanding

In Daniel and Revelation (or even the Bible)
Who or what is the antichrist head?
What happens to the 3 heads of the leopard, are they named or counted?
What of the 10 kings (horns of the 4th beast) are they counted?

Prophesies are to be plainly spoken, should not be a mystery.

 

[ResidentAlien]

Here's a rare image that illustrates the beast as it's actually described in Revelation 13 and 17.



Revelation 13: "And I saw a beast coming up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and on his horns ten crowns, and on his heads blasphemous names. And the beast which I saw was like a leopard, his feet were like the feet of a bear, and his mouth like the mouth of a lion."

It says it has the "mouth" (singular) of a lion, not mouths. So it's a beast with seven heads, and also an eighth with the mouth of a lion.

Revelation 17: "And the beast which was, and is not, is also an eighth, and is of the seven, and is going to perdition."

Note: The beast itself is also an eighth.

 

[LactoseIntolerant]

This is not true per se. What people don't get is the bible proves all of these things out. Many times God gives us Prophesies then helps paint the picture with PAST EVENTS. For example, when was Jesus born before John received the Rev. 12 revelation or after? Before of course, thus when Rev. 12 PAINTS the picture of the Woman (Israel) fleeing from Satan the Dragon in the END TIMES it tells of Jesus birth at the exact same time, thus there is no difference from that Prophecy and the Rev. 13 Prophecy which also looks backwards in time WHILST painting the picture in both cases of a FUTURE EVENT. Rev. 12 is about Israel FLEEING Judea and Rev. 13 is about the END TIME Anti-Christ Beast arising, but both show PAST EVENTS also in order to paint the full picture.

The Book of Revelation is to reveal mysteries. Yes, Rev 12 is an explanation of the intent of the dragon. Yes, Rev 13 is an image looking back at Daniel's prophecy, But, there is no reason to say it a totally divorced from Daniel's prophecy.

If Daniel's prophetic scope is to the roman epoch, then as John wrote in the roman epoch per Rev 17:10 "one is". No matter how one interprets the 7 heads or kings or mountains, it must exist in the roman epoch. Thus the prophecy of the Rev 13 beast is at least be the 4th beast of Daniel 7. There is no little horn on the Rev 13 beast. So where is the big A antichrist?

The 8th head is Apollyon, its not even debatable, the Scarlet Colored Beast in Rev. 17 is Apollyon, go read Rev. 9, the Demon who arises from the pit is Apollyon, the king of the pit. He later kills the Two-witness in Rev. 11. His name as called by Israel means The Destroyer, thus that was his job, thus he was paced by Satan over Israel and the whole Mediterranean Sea Region.

The False Prophet is not a king at all, he's a Religious Leader MAN on this earth. He takes the place of the Harlot (AL FALSE RELIGION) that gets killed off. He will be a Jewish High Priest gone rogue. Rev. 17 clearly tells us this Demon that arises is THAT KING, men don't arise from the pit.

No. Rev 17:8 is talking about the 10 horned beastie. abaddon is a spirit from the abyss, not a beastie from the sea nor is he is a beastie from the earth. The word אֲבַדּוֹן (abaddon) is essentially the personification of destruction in hebrew and goes hand in and with sheol (grave/death) and is generically associated with a place. The abyss is tartarus of 2 Peter 2:4 where bad ideas go to roost till destruction.
There are only 2 ways a spirit can incarnate (to a head) 1) via the Holy Spirit or 2) via the nephilim way. Both ways would not be sanctioned by God (or for that matter by national governments).

There are not 7 Heads in Dan., the Four Generals are NOT HEADS, they are Four Generals. The 7 Heads over Israel are not that hard t understand brother, you are just in tunnel vision mode on this aspect.

The four generals formed 4 dynasties
Dan 8:8Therefore the he goat waxed very great: and when he was strong, the great horn was broken; and for it came up four notable ones toward the four winds of heaven.9And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land.

The interpretation
Daniel 8:21And the rough goat is the king of Grecia: and the great horn that is between his eyes is the first king. 22Now that being broken, whereas four stood up for it, four kingdoms shall stand up out of the nation, but not in his power. 23And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.

If they are kingdoms, then they are heads. Rev 17:9-10

 

[Pilgrimshope]

In Daniel and Revelation (or even the Bible)
Who or what is the antichrist head?
What happens to the 3 heads of the leopard, are they named or counted?
What of the 10 kings (horns of the 4th beast) are they counted?

Prophesies are to be plainly spoken, should not be a mystery.

yeah exactly that’s why you have to take all the clear information and put it together. Your missing this part

“And there are seven kings: five are fallen, ( past)

and one is, #6 ( johns present time )

and the other #7 is not yet come; ( johns future ) and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭17:10

what your missing is Daniels vision starts at the first head nebucadnezzar. Johns vision comes when the 6 th head is having his reign .

your missing the passage of the prophetic timeline

Greece is the third kingdom the first head is Alexander the Great, he’s the third head , after his death the Grecian empire split into civil war part Persian , part Grecian and part Roman

Rome won the civil war and took dominion and johns vision came at that time while Rome had dominion

your right it should t require us to go on long explanations and the re should always be scriptire relatively plain to show us what’s happening

the issue is that ea C prophecy isn’t speaking it’s own seperate message they all go together that’s how the o formation comes together to make sense so the first is Babylon king nebucadnezzar the second ? And third who are they ? And the four heads how do they come in ?

“The ram which thou sawest having two horns are the kings of Media and Persia. And the rough goat is the king of Grecia: and the great horn that is between his eyes is the first king.

Now that being broken, whereas four stood up for it, four kingdoms shall stand up out of the nation, but not in his power.”
‭‭Daniel‬ ‭8:20-22‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Babylon overthrew Jerusalem and had dominion on earth , Persia ( Egypt) then overthrew Babylon and xerxes took dominion , then the Grecian rule came Alexander the Great overthrew Persia and took power and dominion over the whole ancient world.

when Alexander the Great died the Grecian kingdom split into covil
War which begat the four heads coming up from one fallen. One of those kingdoms is Rome who won the civil war and took power over the rest .

the sixth head of the beast is of the Roman Kingdom ruling in johns day it’s either Nero who most suspect or Titus who declared himself divine and commanded worship of him as god.

the prior five heads are etched in history happening exactly as Daniel said it would Babylon’s fell to Persia Persia fell to Greece , the Grecian kingdom split after Alexander’s death and the resulting civil wars left Rome standing in power which was the case when John received the revelation of Jesus Christ

 

[ewq1938]

The mountains are imperial seats.

No, they are areas of land where the ten kingdoms exist.

All of them are mentioned because they are in spiritual conflict with God egged on by the dragon. The last "imperial" seat of the false prophet is the 8th head.

The bible doesn't speak of an 8th head. It speaks of an 8th king.

There are eight heads in Revelation, all from beasties.

There are no "eight heads" in any verse in the book of Revelation. Go ahead, try to quote one.

 

[ewq1938]

Here's a rare image that illustrates the beast as it's actually described in Revelation 13 and 17.

View attachment 233744

Revelation 13: "And I saw a beast coming up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and on his horns ten crowns, and on his heads blasphemous names. And the beast which I saw was like a leopard, his feet were like the feet of a bear, and his mouth like the mouth of a lion."

It says it has the "mouth" (singular) of a lion, not mouths. So it's a beast with seven heads, and also an eighth with the mouth of a lion.

Revelation 17: "And the beast which was, and is not, is also an eighth, and is of the seven, and is going to perdition."

Note: The beast itself is also an eighth.

The verse gives the beast only 7 heads not 8. "having seven heads and ten horns". A mouth does not create a new head. The mouth is the mouth of the 7 heads which do not have 7 mouths.

 

[LactoseIntolerant]

yeah exactly that’s why you have to take all the clear information and put it together. Your missing this part

“And there are seven kings: five are fallen, ( past)

and one is, #6 ( johns present time )

and the other #7 is not yet come; ( johns future ) and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭17:10

what your missing is Daniels vision starts at the first head nebucadnezzar. Johns vision comes when the 6 th head is having his reign .

your missing the passage of the prophetic timeline

Greece is the third kingdom the first head is Alexander the Great, he’s the third head , after his death the Grecian empire split into civil war part Persian , part Grecian and part Roman

Rome won the civil war and took dominion and johns vision came at that time while Rome had dominion

your right it should t require us to go on long explanations and the re should always be scriptire relatively plain to show us what’s happening

the issue is that ea C prophecy isn’t speaking it’s own seperate message they all go together that’s how the o formation comes together to make sense so the first is Babylon king nebucadnezzar the second ? And third who are they ? And the four heads how do they come in ?

“The ram which thou sawest having two horns are the kings of Media and Persia. And the rough goat is the king of Grecia: and the great horn that is between his eyes is the first king.

Now that being broken, whereas four stood up for it, four kingdoms shall stand up out of the nation, but not in his power.”
‭‭Daniel‬ ‭8:20-22‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Babylon overthrew Jerusalem and had dominion on earth , Persia ( Egypt) then overthrew Babylon and xerxes took dominion , then the Grecian rule came Alexander the Great overthrew Persia and took power and dominion over the whole ancient world.

when Alexander the Great died the Grecian kingdom split into covil
War which begat the four heads coming up from one fallen. One of those kingdoms is Rome who won the civil war and took power over the rest .

the sixth head of the beast is of the Roman Kingdom ruling in johns day it’s either Nero who most suspect or Titus who declared himself divine and commanded worship of him as god.

the prior five heads are etched in history happening exactly as Daniel said it would Babylon’s fell to Persia Persia fell to Greece , the Grecian kingdom split after Alexander’s death and the resulting civil wars left Rome standing in power which was the case when John received the revelation of Jesus Christ

History does not support what you are saying. There was no civil war between rome and greece. (see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman–Greek_wars). All of alexander's conquest was eastward and south. Rome was but a twinkle in satan's eye at the time.
babylon was overwhelm by innovations of the foreign power persia, which was inturn overwhelmed by another foreign power macedonia which was in turn overwhelmed by another foreign power rome.

 

[LactoseIntolerant]

No, they are areas of land where the ten kingdoms exist.

The bible doesn't speak of an 8th head. It speaks of an 8th king.

There are no "eight heads" in any verse in the book of Revelation. Go ahead, try to quote one.

You are right... It is Rome...Georgia! or Athens.... Texas.

Rev 17:9And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. 10And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space. 11And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.

7 heads = 7 mountains = 7 kings
7ner beast + eighth beast goes to perdition
Now in replace "beast" with head eighth head + 7ner head. How many heads does 7ner beast have? 7.
How many heads does the eighth beast have? 1. 7 + 1 = 8

 

[ewq1938]

7 heads = 7 mountains = 7 kings

No, the 7 mountains all exist at the same time while the 7 kings were successive. This is why it's wrong to mix different things together else someone will think there's 7 dragons and 8 two witnesses.

 

[LactoseIntolerant]

No, the 7 mountains all exist at the same time while the 7 kings were successive. This is why it's wrong to mix different things together else someone will think there's 7 dragons and 8 two witnesses.

What is animal is not stone. The beasties are animals, with animal heads. The mountain is of animal. The animal is not stone.

Good point with the mountain vs king succession. The mountain is the dynastic seat, or the peoples that support the dynasty....

The two witnesses have 2 heads. 7+2 = 9 > 8. Not the same. Also different pedigree. Beasties from sea, witnesses from heaven.

 

[Jackson123]

This article convince me Alberto Rivera right, Vatican behind/order kill Jews though they twist and make look like not order but not stop it

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German Catholic bishops admit they were ‘complicit’ in Nazi crimes
By
Jorge Fitz-Gibbon
May 3, 2020 12:54pm

Adolf Hitler with the Vatican ambassador in 1935Universal Images Group via Getty Images
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Germany’s Catholic bishops have acknowledged that they were “complicit” in allowing the Nazis to rise to power and stood by while they launched World War II, according to new reports.

 

[ResidentAlien]

The Catholics weren't behind the order to kill Jews; nor did they give the order. The Catholics were just trying to save their own necks. They entered into an agreement with Hitler by which Hitler agreed to leave them alone in exchange for their passivity.

Catholics have never been Jew lovers and they were aware of what Hitler was doing; but they weren't pulling strings behind the scenes to kill Jews. Pope Pius XII was aware that many Catholic churches and organizations were helping the Jews and he didn't do anything to stop it.

 

[Jackson123]

The Catholics weren't behind the order to kill Jews; nor did they give the order. The Catholics were just trying to save their own necks. They entered into an agreement with Hitler by which Hitler agreed to leave them alone in exchange for their passivity.

Catholics have never been Jew lovers and they were aware of what Hitler was doing; but they weren't pulling strings behind the scenes to kill Jews. Pope Pius XII was aware that many Catholic churches and organizations were helping the Jews and he didn't do anything to stop it.

According ex Jesuit Alberto Rivera, Vatican secretly order Hitler's to to the job, but Jesuit try to cover it up, to try to make people think Vatican don't know about it, alter history and lie.

THE POPE, THE JEWS, AND THE SECRETS IN THE ARCHIVES
Documents reveal the private discussions behind both Pope Pius XII’s silence about the Nazi deportation of Rome’s Jews in 1943 and the Vatican’s postwar support for the kidnapping of two Jewish boys whose parents had perished in the Holocaust.

 

[ResidentAlien]

Well, according to Rivera the Jesuits were responsible for the creation of the Nazis.