Christ kept the Law of Moses, so....

[evyaniy]

and that is why still to this day nearly no one knows that Psalm 119 is the Son's prayer for life and to be raised from the dead because of His obedience to the Law in giving His life to save us, as was promised in the Law to Him in Leviticus 18:5, that the Man Who did the Law and accomplished it would Live. He claimed that promise throughout Psalm 119 asking to be raised to life again because of His obedience in giving His life, and the promise of Life to Him.

 

[evyaniy]

check this out.

even the New Testament in Revelations 9:11 tells us that Psalm 119:176 abad/avad H6 is translated wrong.

9:11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon.

adaddon means destruction which comes from H11 which is the intensive form of H6 abad/avad. That word is translated destroy and perish all through the OT. In Psalm 119:176 abad means destroyed and perished as that was His condition in that verse. He was the slain Lamb and asking to be raised through the stanza and the Psalm.

Hey that is interesting. Psalm 119 and Revelations 9:11. Lots of 911s. Could it be a sign? Amazing that the verse in the New Testament is correcting a mistranslation in Psalm 119.

 

[evyaniy]

any Bereans can use the Blue Letter Bible or their favorite Bible study site to confirm or disprove what has been presented. So far no one has presented any evidence from the original languages to disprove that Psalm 119 is indeed the Son's prayer for life and to be raised because of His obedience to the Law in giving His Life to save us as the Law required of Him. The Law also promised Him that He would Live and He trusted that promise as He says through Psalm 119 as He asked to live according to the promise of life to Him.

 

[evyaniy]

As pointed out the other day in another thread, John 14:31 tells us the Father commanded Him to give His Life according to His own words.

John 14:31 But that the world may know that I love the Father; and as the Father gave Me commandment, even so I do. Arise, let us go hence.

He said this after the Last Supper before heading out to be arrested and accused of blasphemy and crucified.

He was being obedient to the Father and the Law in giving His Life to save us as this verse clearly states in His own words.

The Laws greatest commandment is to love the Father, Who sent Him to die for our sins and save us.

 

[Needevidence]

Just as Moses was the mediator of that covenant, and the laws that governed that covenant was called the law of Moses, so also Jesus is the Mediator of the New Covenant, and therefore it’s called the law of Christ.



But now He has obtained a more excellent ministry, inasmuch as He is also Mediator of a better covenant, which was established on better promises. Hebrews 8:6


But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, to an innumerable company of angels, to the general assembly and church of the firstborn who are registered in heaven, to God the Judge of all, to the spirits of just men made perfect, to Jesus the Mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling that speaks better things than that of Abel. Hebrews 12:22-24


For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus.
1 Timothy 2:5



So it is no longer the law of Moses, who mediated that covenant, but Christ who is the Mediator of the new covenant administrates the law of Christ.


Bear one another’s burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ.
Galatians 6:2


So when studying the New Testament precepts and principles we will come across phrases like, “His commandments“. His laws and commandments are about love; loving God and loving our neighbor.



For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments. And His commandments are not burdensome. 1 John 5:3


If you love Me, keep My commandments. John 14:15





JLB

Fine mediator, but what are his commadments that we need to keep?

 

[evyaniy]

Fine mediator, but what are his commadments that we need to keep?

to love one another? maybe? just trying to do that should be enough to keep us occupied, yet can we?

 

[Needevidence]

to love one another? maybe? just trying to do that should be enough to keep us occupied, yet can we?

So as long as I love others, its ok to commit adultery / fornication etc... on the basis that the other person is happy and agreeable etc...?

 

[evyaniy]

there are verses that speak to that throughout the Epistles.

 

[evyaniy]

was the answer wrong? is His commandment to love one another? do any of us really do that perfectly?

 

[Needevidence]

was the answer wrong? is His commandment to love one another? do any of us really do that perfectly?

Yes I accept love one another - the point I was making is - is that it or are there more laws / commandments, such as adultery / fornication etc... as Jesus does say in Matt 5:17 not come to abolish the law?

 

[Sipsey]

Yes I accept love one another - the point I was making is - is that it or are there more laws / commandments, such as adultery / fornication etc... as Jesus does say in Matt 5:17 not come to abolish the law?

If I might intrude upon your conversation; is it that you are making the point that the laws given previously don't go sway, they just serve a different purpose?

For example, before one comes to saving faith, the Law convicts and brings one to a point of decision, whereas after one is saved, through grace, the law then serves as a guide and reminder as to what God expects from those representing him.

 

[Needevidence]

If I might intrude upon your conversation; is it that you are making the point that the laws given previously don't go sway, they just serve a different purpose?

For example, before one comes to saving faith, the Law convicts and brings one to a point of decision, whereas after one is saved, through grace, the law then serves as a guide and reminder as to what God expects from those representing him.

Hi - the point was if we dont keep the law what were the commandments / laws of Jesus - if none then we are open to adultery / fornication etc... if we are not allowed to do this - then we need to keep some laws - which was is it - No laws or some laws?

 

[Sipsey]

Hi - the point was if we dont keep the law what were the commandments / laws of Jesus - if none then we are open to adultery / fornication etc... if we are not allowed to do this - then we need to keep some laws - which was is it - No laws or some laws?

Gotcha. So, what is your view?

 

[Needevidence]

Gotcha. So, what is your view?

my understanding is that we should keep the law because Matt 5:17 - otherwise we can kind of do what we want - but is it all the old laws or just some is troubling

 

[Mem]

my understanding is that we should keep the law because Matt 5:17 - otherwise we can kind of do what we want - but is it all the old laws or just some is troubling

There seems to be a phalse dichotomy there. Is the only other choice other than keeping the law to do whatever we want?

 

[Cameron143]

There seems to be a phalse dichotomy there. Is the only other choice other than keeping the law to do whatever we want?

Good point. And why is keeping the law the opposite of what we want?

 

[Sipsey]

my understanding is that we should keep the law because Matt 5:17 - otherwise we can kind of do what we want - but is it all the old laws or just some is troubling

Do you think someone who is truly saved and indwelt with the Holy Spirit will have no self control?

 

[Mem]

Good point. And why is keeping the law the opposite of what we want?

Exactly! That's a great question. For example, a choice other than having no other gods before Me is loving the Lord thy God with all your "muchness," above all, and this choice can be applied to the first five comments, and then loving your neighbor is a choice other than commandments 6-10. So the choices are between the law of Moses, or what is (what's the word? restrictive? about what not to do) and the laws of Christ, which are (proactive?).

 

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[Evmur]

Teh bible mentions the Pharisees not necessarily all jews did not keep it. Jesus never stated the law no longer is required

the law is not enough, it never did save anyone. The correct understanding of the law is that it is necessary ... for sinners