Catholicism vs Protestantism
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If catholic believe the plan of salvation for every body. Than it is wasting time to say the plan of salvation include those who acknowledge the creator
Example : say your church have 1000 member
The church will celebrate chrismast
Every body invited.
You don't need to say, john you are invited, Sam you are invited etc 1000 named
That is not smart thing to do
Say: every member are invited, save time and money
Example : say your church have 1000 member
The church will celebrate chrismast
Every body invited.
You don't need to say, john you are invited, Sam you are invited etc 1000 named
That is not smart thing to do
Say: every member are invited, save time and money
"is that what our lord is talking about in Luke 11:41. or Luke12:47-48." Of course not. These passages have nothing to do with indulgences or Purgatory.
LUKE 11:41: ALMSGIVING MORE IMPORTANT THAN WASHING CUPS AND PLATES
But rather give alms of such things as ye have; and, behold, all things are clean unto you. [Note: this was addressed to the Jews who made much of ceremonial washings, but their hearts were not right and they also hated Christ]
LUKE 12:47-48: PROFESSING CHRISTIANS = UNBELIEVERS
46 The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers.
47 And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes.
48 But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.
This parable speaks of those who claim to be servants of Christ, but are not really saved, and therefore not serving God properly, nor looking for the coming of Christ. They are considered unbelievers because they are not children of God who have experienced the New Birth.
LUKE 11:41: ALMSGIVING MORE IMPORTANT THAN WASHING CUPS AND PLATES
But rather give alms of such things as ye have; and, behold, all things are clean unto you. [Note: this was addressed to the Jews who made much of ceremonial washings, but their hearts were not right and they also hated Christ]
LUKE 12:47-48: PROFESSING CHRISTIANS = UNBELIEVERS
46 The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers.
47 And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes.
48 But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.
This parable speaks of those who claim to be servants of Christ, but are not really saved, and therefore not serving God properly, nor looking for the coming of Christ. They are considered unbelievers because they are not children of God who have experienced the New Birth.
Each person receives the same. Eternal life using a penny . Some murmured.
Catholicism simply has another foundation of necromancy. Seeking the workers of familiar spirits called patron saints .(3500 and rising) picking up speed as the end becomes nearer. the bible calls them a abomination. King Josiah who found the book of the law the bible put an end to that abomination as the Holy Spirit in him moved .
Catholicism simply avoids like a plague the author of Christian faith .Our unseen father in heaven .
There kind of faith has another written authority that they must believe is Devine even though by looking ahead they can see that does not ring true. Just like the illusion of bread as real flesh and blood. Enough to fill the ocean. They have one under glass on display that can be venerated (worshipped) and photos showing wafers turned to blood in the mouth as false sources of faith that take away the understanding of God's book of the law .
No man can serve teaching masters as written laws.
Call no man on earth Teaching as Good Master one is our Holy Father in heaven .
Catholicism simply naturally unredeemed mankind looking to the things seen having no faith that comes under solo scriptura. The same kind of division between the Moslem and there Koran book of law and the Christians . or Mormons and their book of the law of men. Or any of the pagan religious disciplines founding their faith on that seen the temporal.
They influenced by the god of this world that needs flesh to work out his desire. like the Acts account tried to make the written law of God without effect so that they could follow after the pagan nations of this world.
Saul who served under the law of the fathers (out of sight out of mind) was converted by the hearing of the faith of God that worked in Paul to both will and do the god pleasure of our unseen father. Those he previously served moved Paul who had become a member of the Nazarene denomination or called The Way to the most wanted list to remove from their sight . Like Cain and Abel.
Note.... Two different written laws apposing each other . The law of men that they claim as Sacred Devine (#80 of the Catholic law of the fathers). as oral traditions of sinful men who appose the law of our father not seen.(sola scriptura) the nemesis.
For we have found this man a pestilent fellow, and a mover of sedition among all the Jews throughout the world, and a ringleader of the sect of the Nazarenes: Who also hath gone about to profane the temple: whom we took, and would have judged according to our law. Acts24: 5
Those who do hold to another authority other than as it is written by the finger of God. They simply blaspheme the holy Spirit and make void the power to seek after him who has no form. Rather than seeking the approval of the corrupted seen. Called a daysman or Pope .
Like in all cases natural man, naturally turns things upside down as if we are revealed the unseen things of God as the very things of men seen.
The Father un seen through His prophet the Son rebuked the father of lies Satan. Get behind me, not Peter. Exposing the man of sin or man who does sin as blasphemy . Peter was forgiven for blaspheming the Son of man seen the temporal the devil fled. . (Mathew 16:23 )
But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men. (Mathew 16:23 )
Saul previously the hunter (out of sight out of mind) became Paul the hunted. God having turned right side up.
Neither can they prove the things whereof they now accuse me. But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets: Acts 24:13-14
The key. . . "so worship I the God of my fathers" according to as it is written ,. Not as previous so I worshipped the law of the fathers as a deceived false zeal for knowing God. Refusing to know the father by faith .They create their source of faith as laws of men
Law of the Catholic fathers . beginning with veneration their sacred flesh
80 "Sacred Tradition and Sacred Scripture, then, are bound closely together, and communicate one with the other. For both of them, flowing out from the same divine well-spring, come together in some fashion to form one thing, and move towards the same goal."
Catholicism simply has another foundation of necromancy. Seeking the workers of familiar spirits called patron saints .(3500 and rising) picking up speed as the end becomes nearer. the bible calls them a abomination. King Josiah who found the book of the law the bible put an end to that abomination as the Holy Spirit in him moved .
Catholicism simply avoids like a plague the author of Christian faith .Our unseen father in heaven .
There kind of faith has another written authority that they must believe is Devine even though by looking ahead they can see that does not ring true. Just like the illusion of bread as real flesh and blood. Enough to fill the ocean. They have one under glass on display that can be venerated (worshipped) and photos showing wafers turned to blood in the mouth as false sources of faith that take away the understanding of God's book of the law .
No man can serve teaching masters as written laws.
Call no man on earth Teaching as Good Master one is our Holy Father in heaven .
Catholicism simply naturally unredeemed mankind looking to the things seen having no faith that comes under solo scriptura. The same kind of division between the Moslem and there Koran book of law and the Christians . or Mormons and their book of the law of men. Or any of the pagan religious disciplines founding their faith on that seen the temporal.
They influenced by the god of this world that needs flesh to work out his desire. like the Acts account tried to make the written law of God without effect so that they could follow after the pagan nations of this world.
Saul who served under the law of the fathers (out of sight out of mind) was converted by the hearing of the faith of God that worked in Paul to both will and do the god pleasure of our unseen father. Those he previously served moved Paul who had become a member of the Nazarene denomination or called The Way to the most wanted list to remove from their sight . Like Cain and Abel.
Note.... Two different written laws apposing each other . The law of men that they claim as Sacred Devine (#80 of the Catholic law of the fathers). as oral traditions of sinful men who appose the law of our father not seen.(sola scriptura) the nemesis.
For we have found this man a pestilent fellow, and a mover of sedition among all the Jews throughout the world, and a ringleader of the sect of the Nazarenes: Who also hath gone about to profane the temple: whom we took, and would have judged according to our law. Acts24: 5
Those who do hold to another authority other than as it is written by the finger of God. They simply blaspheme the holy Spirit and make void the power to seek after him who has no form. Rather than seeking the approval of the corrupted seen. Called a daysman or Pope .
Like in all cases natural man, naturally turns things upside down as if we are revealed the unseen things of God as the very things of men seen.
The Father un seen through His prophet the Son rebuked the father of lies Satan. Get behind me, not Peter. Exposing the man of sin or man who does sin as blasphemy . Peter was forgiven for blaspheming the Son of man seen the temporal the devil fled. . (Mathew 16:23 )
But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men. (Mathew 16:23 )
Saul previously the hunter (out of sight out of mind) became Paul the hunted. God having turned right side up.
Neither can they prove the things whereof they now accuse me. But this I confess unto thee, that after the way which they call heresy, so worship I the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the law and in the prophets: Acts 24:13-14
The key. . . "so worship I the God of my fathers" according to as it is written ,. Not as previous so I worshipped the law of the fathers as a deceived false zeal for knowing God. Refusing to know the father by faith .They create their source of faith as laws of men
Law of the Catholic fathers . beginning with veneration their sacred flesh
80 "Sacred Tradition and Sacred Scripture, then, are bound closely together, and communicate one with the other. For both of them, flowing out from the same divine well-spring, come together in some fashion to form one thing, and move towards the same goal."
I don't know about Martin Luther. I've heard that he didn't intend to cause a split in the church, and that he considered himself Catholic until he died.
I was thinking more about modern divisions within churches today. For example, when I was growing up, we considered ourselves Superior to many other churches because we spoke in tongues. So that's a kind of division, Superior and inferior.
I was thinking more about modern divisions within churches today. For example, when I was growing up, we considered ourselves Superior to many other churches because we spoke in tongues. So that's a kind of division, Superior and inferior.
An analogy is a tool for understanding, imo.
How many beliefs about God do two people have to have in common in order to be worshiping the same God?
For example, some Christians say God created the Earth about 6,000 years ago. Some Christians say God created the Earth over 4 billion years ago. Are they worshiping the same God?
How many beliefs about God do two people have to have in common in order to be worshiping the same God?
For example, some Christians say God created the Earth about 6,000 years ago. Some Christians say God created the Earth over 4 billion years ago. Are they worshiping the same God?
James 2
19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."
Devil acknowledge god is devil in the plan of salvation?
19 Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."
Devil acknowledge god is devil in the plan of salvation?
